Tree Identification Help

[the_ungawa]

Hello Bonsai Nut,

I am new to the forum as a poster, but I have lurked off and on for some time. I am not new to bonsai, but I have not kept up with my studies or maintenance of my trees beyond watering, fertilizing, and repotting. I have recently become motivated to "come back" to taking it a bit more seriously. I have picked up a few young bonsai, and a nursery stock pine from a local place that did now know what these trees were specifically. I have questions and seek advice, but I will start a new thread with specific trees that I would like pruning advice on later. For now, I would like the people here to aid me in identifying (and confirming) the newly acquired trees. I am pretty sure the one with the crazy roots and pointed leaves is a Chinese Sweet Plum. Next is a pine of some variety; I live in San Antonio, TX and I think the tree is 7ish years old, and its in a gallon pot. The third tree with the spadey/tri tip waxy leaf and pale bark is a total mystery. If more photos are required I would be happy to add them. Any help is appreciated and I look forward to posting more in future for specific advice!


CHINESE SWEET PLUM








PINE








UNKNOWN WAXY SPADY/TRI POINT PALE BARK

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

The pine is pushing juvenile growth, which means it can be one of three:
Aleppo pine (pinus halepensis)
Stone pine (pinus pinea)
Canary island pine (ask the Spaniards)

 

[Crazy Diamond]

The first one its Sageretia theezans, the pine looks like Pinus halepensis and the last one IDK maybe Premna or som like that

 

[Shibui]

That final one could be an ivy. A closer look at the new shoot might help.

 

[Potawatomi13]

1st tree is natural Neagari(style)looking for a change like NOT grown inside pop bottle! Congratulations. Pine Likely Italian stone (or Italian Red) Pine based in immature foliage and very long needles. 3rd one no idea what.

 

[the_ungawa]

That final one could be an ivy. A closer look at the new shoot might help.

Is this close enough? Thank you!

 

[the_ungawa]

The first one its Sageretia theezans, the pine looks like Pinus halepensis and the last one IDK maybe Premna or som like that

Thank you for the response and confirmation of the sweet plum. I will look further into the pine based on your recommendation, and I am interested in what a Premna is!

 

[the_ungawa]

The pine is pushing juvenile growth, which means it can be one of three:
Aleppo pine (pinus halepensis)
Stone pine (pinus pinea)
Canary island pine (ask the Spaniards)

Thanks for your response and these leads! There are so many pines that it is a bit daunting, so narrowing it down to three certainly helps.

 

[the_ungawa]

1st tree is natural Neagari(style)looking for a change like NOT grown inside pop bottle! Congratulations. Pine Likely Italian stone (or Italian Red) Pine based in immature foliage and very long needles. 3rd one no idea what.

Thank you for pointing out to me what this style is formally called! I am very interested in its roots, and I think the simple design of two leaf clusters will be very pleasant when contrasted to the odd-numbered gnarly roots.

 

[Crazy Diamond]

That final one could be an ivy. A closer look at the new shoot might help.

Ivy have usyally alternate leaves, that plant have oposite leaves, still looks like ivy so IDK

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

Thanks for your response and these leads! There are so many pines that it is a bit daunting, so narrowing it down to three certainly helps.

I hope that it's halepensis. Way easier to manage than stone pine.
Stone pine reverts to juvenile so easily that there are very, very few succesful bonsai.

 

[LanceMac10]

Last one may be a Gmelina.....

......but looks a hell of a lot like an Ivy variety.....

 

[Tums]

Last one may be a Gmelina.....

......but looks a hell of a lot like an Ivy variety.....

Agree on gmelina, looks like the ones I've seen in the stores.

 

[the_ungawa]

Last one may be a Gmelina.....

......but looks a hell of a lot like an Ivy variety.....

I think I found it thanks to your lead! Gmelina Philippensis aka "Parrot's Beak" and there may be a miniature variety? (probably just marketing). Thank you!

 

[the_ungawa]

I hope that it's halepensis. Way easier to manage than stone pine.
Stone pine reverts to juvenile so easily that there are very, very few succesful bonsai.

Are the single needles the juvenile growth and those clusters the mature?

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

Are the single needles the juvenile growth and those clusters the mature?

Yes, the single ones are juvenile. But later in time adult needles can form in between them.