TP Hackberry #4

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From my Scouting for Trees thread, you might be familiar with this guy. Decided to make a thread, because I think it's interesting and looks like it'll make it.

Oopsie, broke that one little branch a while back.

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Not going sumo with this Hack. No more work except remove wires later and just water, sun, and fert.
 

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I was just going to feed and leave alone, but it keeps growing. Not bad for first year and considering how hard I cut.
Doesn't it suck when they just keep growing? But seriously, that last view looks really good for a front. You'll want to get as much growth on those shoots as possible before fall. Hackberries drop small twigs and branches really easily.
 

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Tree growing well, but I've noticed these dark marks. Hope it's nothing to worry about. @Zach Smith
I used to think that dieback would be compartmentalized at chop site, but I've been wondering if these marks are just dieback that happen away from chop site.

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've been wondering if these marks are just dieback
It does look similar to dieback, but it makes no sense to be connected to the chop. I wonder if there isn't a bug or pathogen that is killing the cambium in these areas. Your second image features an area that clearly has a crack in the bark. I would start carefully picking away the bark from the crack to find out what is underneath (or going on there - even if I picked away from over the entire colored area I wouldn't have a wound any bigger than a branch cut, so ... ;)).
 

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It does look similar to dieback, but it makes no sense to be connected to the chop. I wonder if there isn't a bug or pathogen that is killing the cambium in these areas. Your second image features an area that clearly has a crack in the bark. I would start carefully picking away the bark from the crack to find out what is underneath (or going on there - even if I picked away from over the entire colored area I wouldn't have a wound any bigger than a branch cut, so ... ;)).

I may have to carve those spots out anyways. They look like dead tissue to me. I'll just wait and observe a little while. Check back next year for any changes first. I'm really wanting a tree without wounds if I can.
 

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those dead areas remind me of a fungal pathogen that Japanese maples get. I forget the name, but it is difficult to treat and ruins the maple trees.

I'm not sure I would wait, but I would need to research to find out what to treat with first.
 

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Hackberrys heal well Thumbless.
Just give it enough branch extensions and time. Or ground grow in a colander.
Growing them since 1981/2 or so.
From Lafayette, Louisiana.
Using a fridge.
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Hackberrys heal well Thumbless.
Just give it enough branch extensions and time. Or ground grow in a colander.
Growing them since 1981/2 or so.
From Lafayette, Louisiana.
Using a fridge.
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Thanks, Anthony and Leo. The tree doesn't appear weakened. Still going strongly. I'll transplant to ground on a tile or board next spring. I could take the time to see if there's anything happening below. Will not let this worry me too much. Still applying liquid fertilizer now.
 

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I reduced the dead part at chop site some. Threaded a few branches to give it more dimension. Removed a large root and some branches. Planted on board and arranged some roots. All that late winter. Got to reduce more of chop site when I get carving bits.

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Going to reduce the die back more.
Is this how you would basically do it? Remove matter above redline? Sorry seems so basic.
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Yah, carve it down to roughly where you want it to be. If you don't have a full ring of green cambium showing, continue carving until you do, smoothing to the look you then want. The wood should be higher in the center of the wound if you want it to ultimately have a nice round profile. Otherwise I think it will wind up kinda flat when healed.
 

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Thumbless,

mind if I share 2 images.
This is Celtis l.

This is the wound we have to heal. Left a branch to heal, extension this year about 3 to 6 feet if it makes it,.
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This is Miracle ------------ a root that survived an accidental dry out in the fridge that killed mum.
Trinidadian born.

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Started healing last year.

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Thumbless,

mind if I share 2 images.
This is Celtis l.

This is the wound we have to heal. Left a branch to heal, extension this year about 3 to 6 feet if it makes it,.
Good Day
Anthony


This is Miracle ------------ a root that survived an accidental dry out in the fridge that killed mum.
Trinidadian born.

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Started healing last year.

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Thanks, Anthony. I like to see images of wounds covering up, concealing chops. It's educational. In practice I experience some swelling or just rot, so I've been trying things to counter that the best I can. I'd like to get this in the ground and have roots escape to help with healing. Going to move from my current home this year so that'll have to wait.
 

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Been filing. Keep the dremel for finer work.
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A little more or is this lookin' ok?
 
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