Toyo Nishiki Root Over Rock

[GrimLore]

Defoliated, repotted, rebound the roots.

And shipped it to me? You forgot that part I like this one as you know, nice work too! Thanks for the update!

Grimmy

 

[thumblessprimate1]

And shipped it to me? You forgot that part I like this one as you know, nice work too! Thanks for the update!

Grimmy

It sure is an interesting one. It has the shortest internodes of all my Toyos. I wonder if it's from the wiring.

 

[GrimLore]

It sure is an interesting one. It has the shortest internodes of all my Toyos. I wonder if it's from the wiring.

The crazy no internode one I have growing just gets a Fall cutback after leaf drop and an additional tip/end new branch trim in the Spring after flower bud. Has not seen a bit of wire yet. As I pointed out a couple of times I do defoliate it a few times during the season but only 30 percent or so to check branch development. I did it for the last time a few weeks ago and it has new leaf all over those areas. For the record it has been in the shed as we have be having several frosts in between still warmer days and evenings. After another two nights in there it will go outside to its Winter spot because the nights will be cold but not extreme up and down. I suspect it will drop normally as in the past that way.

Having said all that I am certain the partial defoliations AND never letting water rest on the leaf gives me that growth.

Grimmy

 

[thumblessprimate1]

The crazy no internode one I have growing just gets a Fall cutback after leaf drop and an additional tip/end new branch trim in the Spring after flower bud. Has not seen a bit of wire yet. As I pointed out a couple of times I do defoliate it a few times during the season but only 30 percent or so to check branch development. I did it for the last time a few weeks ago and it has new leaf all over those areas. For the record it has been in the shed as we have be having several frosts in between still warmer days and evenings. After another two nights in there it will go outside to its Winter spot because the nights will be cold but not extreme up and down. I suspect it will drop normally as in the past that way.

Having said all that I am certain the partial defoliations AND never letting water rest on the leaf gives me that growth.

Grimmy

My other guess is that the nodes and branches are small and short because the roots have been small on mine. Will keep watching yours.

 

[GrimLore]

My other guess is that the nodes and branches are small and short because the roots have been small on mine. Will keep watching yours.

That one I have is really in only 3 inches of substrate, the entire rest of the large pot is stone with a barrier screen between it. I am looking forward to pulling it in the Spring, chopping wild roots and spreading them out more. This is an odd project in the North but I have time

Grimmy

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Kept leafing out through some freezing temperatures. I halved some of the leaves for light to come through.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Halved more leaves as this one is so active. I was using a sharp pair of pruners, ARS ones from Japan. Super sharp! But really only need to grip the delicate leaves and tear as needed. Hard to believe this one is at this stage in just about a year! ?

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Growing, growing, growing. Cutting, cutting, cutting. Wiring in between. This is growing in coarse pine bark and I used some cotton meal fertilizer.

 

[GrimLore]

Growing, growing, growing. Cutting, cutting, cutting. Wiring in between. This is growing in coarse pine bark and I used some cotton meal fertilizer.

I like Quince and Cotoneaster for that reason. Keeps things interesting for certain

Grimmy

 

[thumblessprimate1]

I can't wait to defoliate in fall, and reshape the sillouhette. I continue to halve the leaves as I make the bends and twists tighter.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Unwired all the branches rewired and manipulated some of the branches. I like to let the branches harden a little, just a little before wiring. I get an idea of this from experience. I don't mind having some wired later than others. Going to have different degrees in bends and twists for a more natural look. The front and silhouette might both change.

Original rear

Original front


Closeup

 

[thumblessprimate1]

I'll tighten up the tree more and reshape it when it's defoliated in the fall.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Some leaves removed. Branches untangled and rewrapped, bound. Fertilizer added and now just going to sort of be forgotten a while except for watering.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Been pushing down new suckers or weaving them in where possible. Keeps the from growing real thick and strong. One day, this thing might receive a big makeover where much that I wired and kept will be cut away. Right now, I'm just growing out a lot of options.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

I bound up a couple more branches today. Looks uggggghuly.

 

[0soyoung]

Eeeeeuuuuu ?

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Three years has past. How do you like the roots? Doesn't it look like it wants to be styled semi cascade?

 

[thumblessprimate1]

What do you think? I obviously need more pots.

 

[0soyoung]

THAT WORKS, imho.

 

[Cadillactaste]

What do you think? I obviously need more pots.
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Dude your killing me! Love where you have taken it!