Scrogdor
Chumono
Never seen one this big, the graft looks pretty good too. Probably 3” trunk size maybe a little bigger. 300$ so it’s a little steep but just curious if anyone thinks this would be good material.
Thoughts on this Mikawa Yatsubusa nursery stock.
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Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
That's an old tree. Mikawa's are pretty slow growers.
Scorpius
Chumono
I'd pot that. Lol.
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
I think its good material, I would probably buy IF the nebari is very good. at that price it needs to have a good nebari me thinks. is a little pricy though
for reference these are $356. they might be harder to get where you are tho
www.bonsainut.com
you have a few options with the material, you can pick the middle line that has some taper and movement, cut back a couple of the side trunks short or you can cut everything back to around 2in and grow an informal broom.
Looking closely, looks like everything has offshoots low down that you can cut back to and begin building taper. these are all good options and attributes i look for when making a decison to see if its worth it or not.
for reference these are $356. they might be harder to get where you are tho
Japanese Maple material
for anyone interested, an unsual Trident on kaizen...unusual because it has holes😂 not for the faint hearted https://www.kaizenbonsai.com/trident-maple-bonsai-material-9445 i think thats a good price, i'd be interested if i didnt already have a couple of lumps on my balcony. defo potential to...
you have a few options with the material, you can pick the middle line that has some taper and movement, cut back a couple of the side trunks short or you can cut everything back to around 2in and grow an informal broom.
Looking closely, looks like everything has offshoots low down that you can cut back to and begin building taper. these are all good options and attributes i look for when making a decison to see if its worth it or not.
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Scrogdor
Chumono
Tried to dig around, not sure what the etiquette is at nursery’s with digging around in the soil. It felt like it had atleast 3 primary roots. Maybe 4 or 5. Hard to tell thoughI think its good material, I would probably buy IF the nebari is very good. at that price it needs to have a good nebari me thinks. is a little pricy though
for reference these are $356. they might be harder to get where you are tho
Japanese Maple material
for anyone interested, an unsual Trident on kaizen...unusual because it has holes😂 not for the faint hearted https://www.kaizenbonsai.com/trident-maple-bonsai-material-9445 i think thats a good price, i'd be interested if i didnt already have a couple of lumps on my balcony. defo potential to...
you have a few options with the material, you can pick the middle line that has some taper and movement, cut back a couple of the side trunks short or you can cut everything back to around 2in and grow an informal broom.
I think my plan would be to do a big root reduction into a wide flat pot and probably reduce the long primary branches back toward the trunk.
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
I just say if you see me digging around in the soil, im just looking for a good root spread, im not destroying your plant, maybe I show them some bonsai pics. theyre usually fine with that.
Scrogdor
Chumono
Gonna go back and take a look at the nebari. This is kind of what I had in mind
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Scrogdor
Chumono
Unearthed what I could. 3 primary roots. One of them kinda turns into a nub it looks like.I think its good material, I would probably buy IF the nebari is very good. at that price it needs to have a good nebari me thinks. is a little pricy though
for reference these are $356. they might be harder to get where you are tho
Japanese Maple material
for anyone interested, an unsual Trident on kaizen...unusual because it has holes😂 not for the faint hearted https://www.kaizenbonsai.com/trident-maple-bonsai-material-9445 i think thats a good price, i'd be interested if i didnt already have a couple of lumps on my balcony. defo potential to...
you have a few options with the material, you can pick the middle line that has some taper and movement, cut back a couple of the side trunks short or you can cut everything back to around 2in and grow an informal broom.
Looking closely, looks like everything has offshoots low down that you can cut back to and begin building taper. these are all good options and attributes i look for when making a decison to see if its worth it or not.
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BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
That would be a good enough root base to begin with, then encourage more in between over time.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
I'd like to see you leave the 2 forks cut back to an inch.
You can always go further in later, but it seems a waste to cut that off.
Sorce
You can always go further in later, but it seems a waste to cut that off.
Sorce
Bonsai Nut
Nuttier than your average Nut
Mikawa Yatsubusas do not grow quickly at all. There is a reason why they go for a premium.
Scrogdor
Chumono
Have you seen any good/ large Mikawa Yatsubusa Bonsai? I can’t seem to find any good examples of them
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
You mean like this type of thing, its doable
Hackberry, Celtis africana, dug up and potted 2016
I was lucky enough to be given a bunch of small Celtis in nursery bags and decided to make a few into bonsai. I cut the nursery bags and put them around the taproot with a pipe clamp to force roots to the sides. This was in 2008. I don't have pics of the individual trees, but did basically the...
would give the op a better, more naturalistic style of tree in less time.
comes down to tastes eh. going by the virt op wants to build a 'bonsai'
Hack Yeah!
Omono
If you've got the funds rock it. I've got a similar project going. Just playing with a virt, you could layer the red??
Bonsai Nut
Nuttier than your average Nut
It is less common to find JM bonsai that are cultivars. Not impossible, but less common - usually because any that you buy for landscape will be grafted trees.
Scrogdor
Chumono
Trying to envision what a Mikawa Yatsubusa would look like as a bonsai with short branch segments and movement. Most of the time I see them they are very gangly with little tufts of leaves at the end
Hack Yeah!
Omono
I think you could develop them similar to shishigashira. At least I hope so...
www.bonsai-art-museum.jp
The Omiya Bonsai Art Museum, Saitama
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19Mateo83
Masterpiece
If you choose to go with this tree definitely take the time and air layer all the branches you plan to remove. Mikawa air layer fairly easily and it would be such a shame to see those branches go to waste. There’s 3 or 4 nice trees in this one tree and all your air layers will be mikawa on their own roots. Definitely worth the wait and extra work and will make the price a little easier to stomach. It is a good graft on that one though.
Patrick K
Sapling
I have a nursery one as well but it seems to be the nature of the cultivar, and need to give some thought to defoliation and what your goals are. I haven’t had much success reducing leaf size even with full defoliation, so need to make sure when you defoliate you’re thoughtful in how you’re allowing light into interior and creating space. I think treating like shishi makes sense as you’re not going to get huge internode length regardless of fertilization, but the key is allowing light and air flow into interior buds.
Also considering scale of tree and that leaf size isn’t going to reduce much regardless of what you do. If others have had success on that front I’d like to hear techniques employed.
Scrogdor
Chumono
Hmm, reading on other forums that the leaves do not in fact reduce well in Mikawa.
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