The Tornado

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The Tornado is an iconic tree, known by many and for all intents and purposes was core to Eisei-en as it was built and touched by Bjorn and his students. I’ve always viewed it as a community-built tree and is a cornerstone to the amazing native material we have and the possibility of what American Bonsai could create.

I remember seeing the Tornado for the first time at Eisei-en. I was visiting Bjorn on September 19th, 2022 to acquire the Bolt (and also ended up acquiring El Capitan) and was awe struck by the sheer size of the tree and the features of the deadwood. Bjorn joked about me acquiring the tree as well while I was there anyways and after hearing the asking price, I couldn’t fathom ever spending that kind of money on a tree(I was only 4 months into these miniature trees at that point). Chalked it up to “never going to happen”.

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Around July of 2023, Bjorn had reached out asking if I was interested in acquiring the One Seed Juniper I had seen the year before. I initially thought he was referring to a different tree that I was interested in but was on hold for someone else. The conversation didn’t go very far as I knew I’d see him in a couple of months and figured we’d chat then. This was also when I had found out he was leaving the US.

Fast forward to Fall of 2023, I was attending the annual local club show where Bjorn was the guest artist. I had a chance to have a private conversation with him and was catching up on the trees that I had seen the prior year as well as updating him on the Bolt, El Capitan and the rest of the garden. The subject then turned to the previous conversation about acquiring a one seed juniper and he clarified that he meant the Tornado. I was surprised and excited by the prospect but also appreciate the gravity of acquiring such a tree. Knowing that he was leaving however, I felt strongly that the tree should be going to a home that was willing to not only care for it, but also evolve/progress it over time. We came to an agreement and a week later, the tree arrived in Wisconsin.

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With the historical importance of the tree, I knew I wanted assistance with its future care and progression. I hold Bjorn at the highest level of respect and was not going to assume I alone could/should be responsible for this tree. I had my own thoughts about the tree as far as aesthetics and potential future progression (after discussing details with Bjorn) and I decided to reach out to Ryan(Neil) about what I had just acquired.

There were a few things that always stood out to me about this tree(some I had discussed with Bjorn):

1: The size and amazing features of the deadwood.

2: The narrow base that feels weaker due to the size of the rest of the tree. The weakness is further accentuated by the wooden prop that’s needed to hold the tree stable.

3: Foliage distribution weakening the relative size of the trunk/deadwood/

4: The oversized container that it’s in. I’d estimate it weighed about 650lbs or so(my previous skid steer maxed out at 600lbs and it was tipping the machine).

Ryan was visiting for my lessons (after the tree arrived) and understood the gravity of the tree’s provenance and importance. We went back and forth discussing it in detail and laid out a plan. We knew we had to repot it if we wanted to improve the strength of the base and address the clumped native soil that was still present. I performed soji to help with water percolation and also decided to bring it to a local folk fair here in Milwaukee. Bjorn never showed the tree due to its sheer weight so I figured it would be the only opportunity for it to be shown in its current form.

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I reached out to a few potential ceramicist that same winter to see who is capable of creating a container large enough(kiln size is definitely an issue!). Only having historical photos of the previous repot, I had to eyeball the needed container dimensions. @NaoTK was up to the task and accepted the commission(shout out to @Sansokuu for persuading him!).

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The sad news however, is the tree unfortunately did not fit the container based on the new planting angle. Despite the estimate of how we intended to rotate the tree, it just didn’t align right. Fortunately, I have plenty of giants that will need the container in the future and can’t wait to put one in this beautiful pot!

In the spirit of the Tornado being a community built tree, I invited 4 Mirai students, as well as members of the Milwaukee Bonsai Society to assist Ryan, Todd and I on the repot of the tree.

(I’m still in the midst of getting the work photos completed but will update this thread as they are done).

We were able to lift the tree out of its previous container with the help of 4 people and lucked out with a large rectangular ancient Chinese container I had laying around. The repot went well, with no issues and we were able to place it in a new angle that strengthens the base while accentuating the deadwood. The plan is to compress the foliage to further widen the relative size of the trunk and deadwood, thus further enhancing those features.

I present to you, the repotted Tornado. I had shared this photo with Bjorn first and he was glad the tree is doing well!

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Thank you so much bro for documented this, it is a GREAT tree and looking forward to see it evolves in the future.
 
That’s crazy - you’re only two years into the bonsai practice (if I understand correctly) and already able to carry the responsibility of owning such a monumental tree?!
That to me is as impressive as the tree itself.

Granted, you’re not doing it all alone, but amidst some very respected bonsai professionals. Still, you’re going to have to hold your own in a group of people with such a wealth of knowledge.

Really eager to see the next steps of its continuation as a bonsai.
 
That’s crazy - you’re only two years into the bonsai practice (if I understand correctly) and already able to carry the responsibility of owning such a monumental tree?!
That to me is as impressive as the tree itself.

Granted, you’re not doing it all alone, but amidst some very respected bonsai professionals. Still, you’re going to have to hold your own in a group of people with such a wealth of knowledge.

Really eager to see the next steps of its continuation as a bonsai.

Memorial Day actually marks the start of my bonsai journey. I took advantage of Brussel Bonsai’s Memorial Day sale in 2022 to acquire my first 3 trees and used the long weekend to build my first work bench. I have rehomed 1 of those trees and still have the other two!

I think having the resources(time, financial means and access to professionals) immensely accelerated my learning curve but so has surrounding myself with these trees every single day. Ryan, Todd, Bjorn, Sam and countless others whom I’ve met have been so generous with their time and knowledge but ultimately the daily grind is still something I have to execute. Watering, testing, wiring, profiling, pruning, moving them around as well as their individual nutritional needs are just some of the things you pick up rather quickly when you have no choice, plus the usual array of setting initial structure, secondary styling and repotting 😂

I am excited for the next 12 months as there’s quite a few absolutely bonkers yamadori I acquired in late 2022 that will be ready for their initial structure. There’s already 37 amazing pieces of raw material also on the docket to be repotted in the Spring of 2025! The greenhouse is also being built right now so 2024 is going to be absolutely monumental.
 
Memorial Day actually marks the start of my bonsai journey. I took advantage of Brussel Bonsai’s Memorial Day sale in 2022 to acquire my first 3 trees and used the long weekend to build my first work bench. I have rehomed 1 of those trees and still have the other two!

I think having the resources(time, financial means and access to professionals) immensely accelerated my learning curve but so has surrounding myself with these trees every single day. Ryan, Todd, Bjorn, Sam and countless others whom I’ve met have been so generous with their time and knowledge but ultimately the daily grind is still something I have to execute. Watering, testing, wiring, profiling, pruning, moving them around as well as their individual nutritional needs are just some of the things you pick up rather quickly when you have no choice, plus the usual array of setting initial structure, secondary styling and repotting 😂

I am excited for the next 12 months as there’s quite a few absolutely bonkers yamadori I acquired in late 2022 that will be ready for their initial structure. There’s already 37 amazing pieces of raw material also on the docket to be repotted in the Spring of 2025! The greenhouse is also being built right now so 2024 is going to be absolutely monumental.

Wow, that sounds like you’re living the dream.
If I had the financial stability to quit my job and do bonsai professionally I would have done so yesterday.

Seems like you took a proper plunge straight off the highest dive board in terms of your bonsai journey.
I’ll definitely be keeping an eye out for all the cool material that you’re ready to develop.
 
Is that angle change what Bjorn recommended? That much deadwood hanging over the lip of the pot feels like a very untraditional and Mirai-influenced choice

I was introduced to this tree as Tatsumaki, which translates as "tornado". What's the motivation behind the name change? I know that names for bonsai are fairly fluid (Bjorn always called it Grendel instead of the Bolt)
 
Is that angle change what Bjorn recommended? That much deadwood hanging over the lip of the pot feels like a very untraditional and Mirai-influenced choice

I was introduced to this tree as Tatsumaki, which translates as "tornado". What's the motivation behind the name change? I know that names for bonsai are fairly fluid (Bjorn always called it Grendel instead of the Bolt)

The angle change was not based on Bjorn's recommendation but based off the conversation I had with Ryan and Todd. Even without their input, I had originally wanted a change in the angle to widen and strengthen the base.

I'm still calling it the Tornado (instead of Tatsumaki) so there has been no name change and is actually what Richard(the collector) always had called it.
 
The tree obviously looks fantastic from either angle, but I slightly prefer Bjorn's angle. The deadwood looks very vertical, but it does look a lot more stable like this.
 
I get what you're saying, though this tree is known as Bjorn's tree, not Richard's tree. He even went so far as to call it his legacy tree in the US, but you've definitely put your stamp on it now

Having seen it a number of times in person, it never seemed like it had a weak base. The lower jins always felt like they were sketching out a base that held its visual weight well

I recognize that this is a very temporary stage given the pot and current foliage styling. Also it's incredibly hard to see whatever's exposed in that photo. There's barely any contrast between the background and the foliage. I'm very interested to see the direction you take it in
 
Wonderful tree!

A bit torn. Can’t say I love the angle change, subtle as it is. Only one image though.

From this perspective, the shift moves the major deadwood features toward vertical and horizontal lines, attenuating the dynamicism (if this is a real word) making the image more static. Again as the image given highlights the deadwood, that’s the first thing my eye was drawn too.

On the other hand, the foliage shifts to a much more dynamic angle, also appears to have moved inward. imho this creates quite a bit of a dissonance between the two major elements, deadwood/foliage. If that’s what was intended, mission accomplished.

The pot was a bit large. Knowing Ryan loves to put trees in smaller pots, I can see the pot change recommended. But practically it’s a balance between health and aesthetics. yet new pot looks smallish given the structures involved, drawing the eye towards the overhang.

View and work on lots of trees, being a longish volunteer at a local bonsai museum. There are a couple trees in the collection that do have overhangs… they in no way compare to this tree’s dynamicism, but just for examples of how another artist dealt with overhangs.

“Captain Hook”
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Just one person’s thoughs…

Glad you could step up and host this tree!

DSD sends
 
I like the original planting angle but I think the new angle improves the base and you were able to solve having that unsightly block/prop completely visible that was front centre of the tree.
 
The Tornado is an iconic tree, known by many and for all intents and purposes was core to Eisei-en as it was built and touched by Bjorn and his students. I’ve always viewed it as a community-built tree and is a cornerstone to the amazing native material we have and the possibility of what American Bonsai could create.

I remember seeing the Tornado for the first time at Eisei-en. I was visiting Bjorn on September 19th, 2022 to acquire the Bolt (and also ended up acquiring El Capitan) and was awe struck by the sheer size of the tree and the features of the deadwood. Bjorn joked about me acquiring the tree as well while I was there anyways and after hearing the asking price, I couldn’t fathom ever spending that kind of money on a tree(I was only 4 months into these miniature trees at that point). Chalked it up to “never going to happen”.

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Around July of 2023, Bjorn had reached out asking if I was interested in acquiring the One Seed Juniper I had seen the year before. I initially thought he was referring to a different tree that I was interested in but was on hold for someone else. The conversation didn’t go very far as I knew I’d see him in a couple of months and figured we’d chat then. This was also when I had found out he was leaving the US.

Fast forward to Fall of 2023, I was attending the annual local club show where Bjorn was the guest artist. I had a chance to have a private conversation with him and was catching up on the trees that I had seen the prior year as well as updating him on the Bolt, El Capitan and the rest of the garden. The subject then turned to the previous conversation about acquiring a one seed juniper and he clarified that he meant the Tornado. I was surprised and excited by the prospect but also appreciate the gravity of acquiring such a tree. Knowing that he was leaving however, I felt strongly that the tree should be going to a home that was willing to not only care for it, but also evolve/progress it over time. We came to an agreement and a week later, the tree arrived in Wisconsin.

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With the historical importance of the tree, I knew I wanted assistance with its future care and progression. I hold Bjorn at the highest level of respect and was not going to assume I alone could/should be responsible for this tree. I had my own thoughts about the tree as far as aesthetics and potential future progression (after discussing details with Bjorn) and I decided to reach out to Ryan(Neil) about what I had just acquired.

There were a few things that always stood out to me about this tree(some I had discussed with Bjorn):

1: The size and amazing features of the deadwood.

2: The narrow base that feels weaker due to the size of the rest of the tree. The weakness is further accentuated by the wooden prop that’s needed to hold the tree stable.

3: Foliage distribution weakening the relative size of the trunk/deadwood/

4: The oversized container that it’s in. I’d estimate it weighed about 650lbs or so(my previous skid steer maxed out at 600lbs and it was tipping the machine).

Ryan was visiting for my lessons (after the tree arrived) and understood the gravity of the tree’s provenance and importance. We went back and forth discussing it in detail and laid out a plan. We knew we had to repot it if we wanted to improve the strength of the base and address the clumped native soil that was still present. I performed soji to help with water percolation and also decided to bring it to a local folk fair here in Milwaukee. Bjorn never showed the tree due to its sheer weight so I figured it would be the only opportunity for it to be shown in its current form.

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I reached out to a few potential ceramicist that same winter to see who is capable of creating a container large enough(kiln size is definitely an issue!). Only having historical photos of the previous repot, I had to eyeball the needed container dimensions. @NaoTK was up to the task and accepted the commission(shout out to @Sansokuu for persuading him!).

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The sad news however, is the tree unfortunately did not fit the container based on the new planting angle. Despite the estimate of how we intended to rotate the tree, it just didn’t align right. Fortunately, I have plenty of giants that will need the container in the future and can’t wait to put one in this beautiful pot!

In the spirit of the Tornado being a community built tree, I invited 4 Mirai students, as well as members of the Milwaukee Bonsai Society to assist Ryan, Todd and I on the repot of the tree.

(I’m still in the midst of getting the work photos completed but will update this thread as they are done).

We were able to lift the tree out of its previous container with the help of 4 people and lucked out with a large rectangular ancient Chinese container I had laying around. The repot went well, with no issues and we were able to place it in a new angle that strengthens the base while accentuating the deadwood. The plan is to compress the foliage to further widen the relative size of the trunk and deadwood, thus further enhancing those features.

I present to you, the repotted Tornado. I had shared this photo with Bjorn first and he was glad the tree is doing well!

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The tree looks so much healthier and the photography is super.... but could we also see a few photos where the tree does not have make up on.... some normal photo with bright lighting?
 
I’ve always thought this was an incredible tree. I am glad that we will get to see some of its progression :)
 
The Tornado is an iconic tree, known by many and for all intents and purposes was core to Eisei-en as it was built and touched by Bjorn and his students. I’ve always viewed it as a community-built tree and is a cornerstone to the amazing native material we have and the possibility of what American Bonsai could create.

I remember seeing the Tornado for the first time at Eisei-en. I was visiting Bjorn on September 19th, 2022 to acquire the Bolt (and also ended up acquiring El Capitan) and was awe struck by the sheer size of the tree and the features of the deadwood. Bjorn joked about me acquiring the tree as well while I was there anyways and after hearing the asking price, I couldn’t fathom ever spending that kind of money on a tree(I was only 4 months into these miniature trees at that point). Chalked it up to “never going to happen”.

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Around July of 2023, Bjorn had reached out asking if I was interested in acquiring the One Seed Juniper I had seen the year before. I initially thought he was referring to a different tree that I was interested in but was on hold for someone else. The conversation didn’t go very far as I knew I’d see him in a couple of months and figured we’d chat then. This was also when I had found out he was leaving the US.

Fast forward to Fall of 2023, I was attending the annual local club show where Bjorn was the guest artist. I had a chance to have a private conversation with him and was catching up on the trees that I had seen the prior year as well as updating him on the Bolt, El Capitan and the rest of the garden. The subject then turned to the previous conversation about acquiring a one seed juniper and he clarified that he meant the Tornado. I was surprised and excited by the prospect but also appreciate the gravity of acquiring such a tree. Knowing that he was leaving however, I felt strongly that the tree should be going to a home that was willing to not only care for it, but also evolve/progress it over time. We came to an agreement and a week later, the tree arrived in Wisconsin.

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With the historical importance of the tree, I knew I wanted assistance with its future care and progression. I hold Bjorn at the highest level of respect and was not going to assume I alone could/should be responsible for this tree. I had my own thoughts about the tree as far as aesthetics and potential future progression (after discussing details with Bjorn) and I decided to reach out to Ryan(Neil) about what I had just acquired.

There were a few things that always stood out to me about this tree(some I had discussed with Bjorn):

1: The size and amazing features of the deadwood.

2: The narrow base that feels weaker due to the size of the rest of the tree. The weakness is further accentuated by the wooden prop that’s needed to hold the tree stable.

3: Foliage distribution weakening the relative size of the trunk/deadwood/

4: The oversized container that it’s in. I’d estimate it weighed about 650lbs or so(my previous skid steer maxed out at 600lbs and it was tipping the machine).

Ryan was visiting for my lessons (after the tree arrived) and understood the gravity of the tree’s provenance and importance. We went back and forth discussing it in detail and laid out a plan. We knew we had to repot it if we wanted to improve the strength of the base and address the clumped native soil that was still present. I performed soji to help with water percolation and also decided to bring it to a local folk fair here in Milwaukee. Bjorn never showed the tree due to its sheer weight so I figured it would be the only opportunity for it to be shown in its current form.

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I reached out to a few potential ceramicist that same winter to see who is capable of creating a container large enough(kiln size is definitely an issue!). Only having historical photos of the previous repot, I had to eyeball the needed container dimensions. @NaoTK was up to the task and accepted the commission(shout out to @Sansokuu for persuading him!).

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The sad news however, is the tree unfortunately did not fit the container based on the new planting angle. Despite the estimate of how we intended to rotate the tree, it just didn’t align right. Fortunately, I have plenty of giants that will need the container in the future and can’t wait to put one in this beautiful pot!

In the spirit of the Tornado being a community built tree, I invited 4 Mirai students, as well as members of the Milwaukee Bonsai Society to assist Ryan, Todd and I on the repot of the tree.

(I’m still in the midst of getting the work photos completed but will update this thread as they are done).

We were able to lift the tree out of its previous container with the help of 4 people and lucked out with a large rectangular ancient Chinese container I had laying around. The repot went well, with no issues and we were able to place it in a new angle that strengthens the base while accentuating the deadwood. The plan is to compress the foliage to further widen the relative size of the trunk and deadwood, thus further enhancing those features.

I present to you, the repotted Tornado. I had shared this photo with Bjorn first and he was glad the tree is doing well!

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This angle seems to increase the value of the Tornado namesake
The twisting upward deadwood.
 
A bit torn. Can’t say I love the angle change, subtle as it is. Only one image though.
I am going to agree. The apex feels like it is leaning away from the line of the primary branch, almost as if the tree is falling backwards. If I were to tilt the trunk from upright (as Bjorn had it) I would lean it in the other direction.

(My planting angle...)

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Granted I'd like to see more pictures, I actually really like the new angle. I dare say it even better evokes it's namesake of tornado.
 
I get what you're saying, though this tree is known as Bjorn's tree, not Richard's tree. He even went so far as to call it his legacy tree in the US, but you've definitely put your stamp on it now

Having seen it a number of times in person, it never seemed like it had a weak base. The lower jins always felt like they were sketching out a base that held its visual weight well

I recognize that this is a very temporary stage given the pot and current foliage styling. Also it's incredibly hard to see whatever's exposed in that photo. There's barely any contrast between the background and the foliage. I'm very interested to see the direction you take it in

I’m not big into naming trees myself but more so using the commonly known name of the tree. Even Bjorn introduced the tree to me as the Tornado the first time I had visited Eisei-en.

As for the base, it’s definitely narrow for the size of the tree, which is further accentuated by the large trunk and spread out foliage. Perhaps junipers, as a species in general, requires less of a focus on it but I definitely pursue the strongest base I can find, especially when it’s styled as a more masculine tree(vs long, elongating feminine features).

As for the foliage, it’s unstyled right now. The positioning of the foliage is the same way Bjorn had it before. I did not want to repot and also reposition the tree, hence the weird angles it currently has. There’ll be more photos, including detail shots once everything is more set!

I am going to agree. The apex feels like it is leaning away from the line of the primary branch, almost as if the tree is falling backwards. If I were to tilt the trunk from upright (as Bjorn had it) I would lean it in the other direction.

(My planting angle...)

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Wonderful tree!

A bit torn. Can’t say I love the angle change, subtle as it is. Only one image though.

From this perspective, the shift moves the major deadwood features toward vertical and horizontal lines, attenuating the dynamicism (if this is a real word) making the image more static. Again as the image given highlights the deadwood, that’s the first thing my eye was drawn too.

On the other hand, the foliage shifts to a much more dynamic angle, also appears to have moved inward. imho this creates quite a bit of a dissonance between the two major elements, deadwood/foliage. If that’s what was intended, mission accomplished.

The pot was a bit large. Knowing Ryan loves to put trees in smaller pots, I can see the pot change recommended. But practically it’s a balance between health and aesthetics. yet new pot looks smallish given the structures involved, drawing the eye towards the overhang.


DSD sends

The current apex and positioning of the secondary branches are not set/styled. We had left it the way Bjorn originally styled, which makes it a bit weird with the angle change. Once compacted, I believe the girth/strength/features of the tree will be accentuated better. The “grounding” of the overhung(is that a real word? Lol) deadwood also allows us to play with the idea that the overall base is wider than it is vs having it floating off the container.

I’m definitely excited to see how it all comes together in the Fall, once everything is styled. There’s a chance the potting angle could also be tweaked slightly once that’s done as nailing an unstyled (or one without the planned styling set) is difficult during a repot. I’ll keep this thread updated!
 
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