Sorce pots

Discussion in 'Pots' started by rockm, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. rockm

    rockm Imperial Masterpiece

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    Our man Sorce graciously sent me a couple of his pots.

    I can only say "Wow! Nice work."

    Even though he has only been working for a very short time as a bonsai potter, his knowledge of bonsai and what how pots interact with trees shines through in his containers' construction and sensitivity. Nice designs, nice clay choices--and both are rectangles... a rarity among new bonsai potters who usually make round pots that look like baking dishes with holes.

    The glaze on one Sorce sent along to me is not one of those "HEY LOOK AT ME, I'M SPECIAL" concoctions that some "bonsai" potters favor these days, but is subtle and has some soul.

    The pots are actually functional--which small pots often aren't-- attention to detail-drain holes and slots to keep tie down wires out of the way (!). I thought the "snaky" feet on the glazed rectangle were a particularly innovative, creative detail that I haven't seen before.

    I have found that all this is NOT a common thing for bonsai potters who haven't actually done bonsai. I've spent time with some potters in person hoping to show them that they can't just do what they want and add drainage holes to it. It's frustrating. Sorce is anything but.

    I hope Sorce continues down the road he's on. We need more bonsai potters with a clue about actual bonsai and how they work and with the passion he brings to his effort.

    Way to go man!
     

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  3. jeanluc83

    jeanluc83 Omono

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    +1 @sorce
     
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  4. sorce

    sorce Nonsense Rascal

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    Thank you so much Rock!

    I see you cashed the check I sent you to type the review I wrote!
    Lol! (Sarcasm)

    I don't know what else to say!

    Except maybe....
    It feels a bit like cheating....
    When a pot's creation begins with an end user already in mind, it's as if the Clay, the Earth, knows this and builds itself thru me!

    Did you find the Bully? New Pic!

    He was already on the pot, I just accentuated him!

    Damn, if you do find em and get the pic....
    Maybe you can get the after shot of this Shrinkage check that I forgot to take!
    20171223_072701_HDR.jpg

    Welcome to Crazy!

    I have a drawer full of loose screws!;)

    Sorce
     
  5. rockm

    rockm Imperial Masterpiece

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    HA! I am pretty slow, so I didn't pick up that you had hidden a bullie on the pot. I gotta go look...!!
     
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  6. namnhi

    namnhi Chumono

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    @sorce
    When will we all get a free pot?
    You already sent me some seeds. I just haven't got them yet.
     
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  7. JudyB

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    I do like the tie down slots as long as they don't weaken the overall structure. Good going Sorce!
     
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  8. Carol 83

    Carol 83 Omono

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    I bet you'll get one pretty soon, if you pay for it. ;) I got mine very quickly, it's really nice too.
     
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  9. sorce

    sorce Nonsense Rascal

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    Got em out today! Sorry!

    The one I took the picture with unannealed copper in, I tore it out with pliers as a test.

    Golden!

    I realized my pots are a little thicker than most....cuz a the windowsill!

    Sorce
     
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    @sorce :)
    Artistry apart, I think this is the best you would expect.
    Our Man!!!
    Keep on going!
     
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  11. sorce

    sorce Nonsense Rascal

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    Y'alls support got me a new 50 lbs of some @theone420 ...Standard 420 sculpture clay!

    With a lot of grog and little shrink, big, non-rocking forms may not evade me anymore!

    And with enough new underglaze colors to finish some Soriginals, I may actually get to show you some of the REALLY cool stuff soon!;)

    Sorce
     
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    just.wing.it Imperial Masterpiece

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    So cool!
    Very nice!
     
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  13. jriddell88

    jriddell88 Chumono

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    That blue glaze pot is super nice ! Keep it up man! Lucky rockm!!
     
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    As your confidence in the clay improves, they need to become lighter. Heavy pot = New potter.
    These look nice, and Mark gave a very good review.
     
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  15. That has to be the best stuff !!!!! Aint nothing standard about it.:D
     
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  16. sorce

    sorce Nonsense Rascal

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    On a wheel!

    Don't schtick me in that Pigeonhole Bama!:p That got the potential to have the Sorceress bitchin* for 6 more months!:(

    You know I'm slab building!

    But for real.

    I rolled a couple things too thin, well not too thin. ..but too thin to be more than the little bits they are.

    I got 3/8th slats now that leave me at a 1/4 or less...
    @Brian Van Fleet truthfully, I've never held a Damn rectangle or slab oval to even know how thick they are!

    @Smoke just a bunch of wheel thrown mostly rounds!

    Is 1/4 too thick?

    Anything less seems too fragile.

    I'm trying to put weight where APPROPRIATE.
    Like that tall narrow joint for Owen...
    The walls are 1/4 now cuz I compressed the hell out of it...but the bottom is 3/4 on purpose.
    To hold them leaners.

    Anything set for a literati, or that foresees something taller, more leany....
    I make em heavier on purpose.

    I'm not saying I'm not new. It just cant last long!
    I'm not saying the other x amount of pots/potters out there aren't good..they are......

    I am saying .....

    Once people use my pots....
    I want them to wish their other pots had some of the same "bonsai convenient" attributes as mine!

    If they ain't better than the rest, Ill be giving em away forever!*:rolleyes:

    Sorce
     
  17. JudyB

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    You need to do this to understand the craft. You should get to a show with lots of vendors, and pick up and hold and feel and listen to Japanese, and Chinese, and the great American potters to understand what makes great pots. It's not all about the glaze! Feel is quite a bit of it, and heavy pots won't work for most folks after a certain size.
     
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    sorce Nonsense Rascal

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    To the large?

    Like...don't make a big pot uncarryable?

    I was frigging amazed at the delicateness and featherlight weight of the Lubos pots.....

    But I can not shake the image of mine breaking down the road and someone being upset.

    How thick is the pot Piggy is in?

    Sorce
     
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    I think this is one of the most important aspects of learning to make great pots. I've held more than a few pots that were pretty, but just felt...wrong somehow. They were too heavy or not quite proportional or displayed sloppy imperfections in the finishing. One of the first things I do when I hold a pot is flip it over and look at the feet. If they're not attached securely or are finished sloppily, then it says something about the care (or lack thereof) of construction. Feet can be simple in design, but they should be neat and clean.
     
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  20. rockm

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    I agree. Get out to a show or two when you can. Make a point to do it. Look at, and more importantly pick up and handle, the Japanese and Western pots on sale. Heck, buy one or two if you can.

    By and large, the Japanese shohin and mame pots I have are half or a quarter the thickness of the clay in the unglazed pot you sent.
     
  21. sorce

    sorce Nonsense Rascal

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    Tidbit logged.

    I like to hear how everyone has that little thing that is a make or breaker.

    Pedi O'clock!

    Sorce
     

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