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theguywithcrocs

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I've been using Bonsai Nut for awhile now, but I just caved and created an account to try and find answers to my dilemma.

I've been in the bonsai game for about two years now, and the trees that I collected locally, and some raw material I've purchased is beginning to mature. With this, I've come to realize that it's finally time to purchase some specific tools. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find tool kits that strike a balance between being affordable, and not being a complete rip off intended to ensnare unwary beginners. I don't have an issue piecing together my own tool collection from quality brands, bit by bit, but I need to know where to start.

I was gifted a pair of Wakashishi medium pruning scissors awhile back. They replaced the garden shears I had always used before that, and were certainly an upgrade at the time, but the rivet holding the blades doesn't allow any tightening, and they're about as loose as something that's very loose. Additionally, I've stabbed myself with the tip twice, being the fool I am, because even when it's closed, the two blades overlap at the end and the very tips are exposed.

Anyways, just this weekend, I ordered a tool kit from Amazon from what I believe was a brand called Yescom. It came with things I needed rather immediately, like branch and knob cutters, and also bells and whistles like a fiber brush, leaf cutters, and heavy wire cutters. I was astounded by how poor the quality was. It came with the basic three different sizes of scissors, and all were either too tight to even open, or too loose and with no way to correct it. The concave cutters were not flush, many of the blades were chipped, handles were not symmetrical on many of the tools, etc etc. I plan to return it this afternoon.

I've dug up horrible reviews for many of the tools I've found on Amazon. My question is this: What is your recommended brand for bonsai tools? If I could get a kit, great, but all I really need at the moment is branch and knob cutters, plus maybe a nicer pair of general pruning scissors. I can acquire additional items later. Where do I look to find such items? Is Tian Bonsai any good?
 
I like Ryuga....but I'm sure there are many others who can give you good info.
Ryuga stuff seems like good quality to my eye, and it's not the top tier of pricing either.
 
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This is the set I bought. Didn’t have the problems you listed with the Amazon purchase. The only thing I have replaced are the wire cutters. Also find a canvas tool roll.
 
Where in SC? I recommend buying quality when you determine you have a need. Piecemeal. I like Kiku and Kaneshin. I trust that Joshua Roth is good, though I don't have any. I've also bought Tian stainless and while I'll probably go to one of the brands mentioned earlier for next purchases, these haven't disappointed.
 
Ryuga are a good compromise between quality and price if your budget is tight. Kaneshin are more expensive but are superior tools but still won't bankrupt you. I have both brands I mentioned and am slowly upgrading all my ryuga tools to kaneshin. If I new I would have brought kaneshin from Day 1
 
I haven't bought any "sets", just a piece here and there, so all different manufacturers. I have always stayed away from cheap and expensive and found middling tools just fine. Stainless steel doesn't hold an edged as well as harder carbon steels, but they don't rust. Many of the high carbon steels also resist rusting if you don't leave them in the rain. Everything eventually needs sharpening and I have a device that sharpens scissors and straight edges and you can sweeten the edges of knob cutters with a stone well enough to continue use, so I'm happy, and I'm happy to have not bought any really expensive tools because I'm clumsy and have dropped or knocked off the bench everything I own.
 
For me, my mu tian concave cutters are usually my ‘go to’ tool. I’ve bought two pairs of the small 6.5” cutters. I love them. Very precise and sharp.
 
Whats your budget?

Or-

rip the band aid off now, buy a low end set and then spend more on quality tools when you realize they make a difference, if you ended up getting invested in The hobby.

Kaneshin is my go to.
 
Personally….I wouldn't recommend buying kits of tools. That’s my thinking and my way. You’ll quickly discover you don’t need, and won’t use, many items in the kit. You’ll find better tools after getting more experience. Tool kits do look cool though…and you’ll feel cool….but you don’t really need to spend on what’s not needed at this stage in your development. My advice is to use what you have and identify needs as you develop more…more experience. I have tools from several manufacturers…each for multiple uses. My go to tools most commonly used?…...Fish cutting scissors from Vietnam for root work and many other cutting applications….a Carbon Steel Knob Cutter for branch cutting and chop area shaping and clean up…...and a narrow Japanese pull saw for multiple cuts and trunk chopping.
 
I just don't understand what exactly the price is buying on some sets.
Knob cutters, flush cutters and some good scissors are the only items where quality is a requirement. I would love to find just those 3 in a set. Your local hardware store has good quality pliers, wire cutters, pull saws and picks. I have a box of random tools. If it looks good, it goes in the box.
 
I bought an American bonsai 7 piece tool set https://www.americanbonsai.com/American-Bonsai-Stainless-Steel-Series-7-Set-p/ab420-07.htm and have used everything in it besides the root pick... I have a dinner fork I use for that. The knob cutters I’ve technically used but only played around with. Is everything needed? Definitely not. I have wire cutters and pliers in my garage that work just as good.
American bonsai also has a refurbished section where they fix either damaged or faulty tools and resell them at a lower price I believe with the same guarantee as well, don’t quote me on that last part though
 
I would buy some ABS shears or something similar for $20. Then buy a concave cutter from kaneshin. Maybe a wire cutter if you wire or plan too. The rest you can collect over time. The scissors and concave cutter are pretty crucial. I really like the kaneshin spherical cutter. It is rounded and can double as a low rent knob cutter. If you are in to pines then maybe a good tweezer but I don’t use mine much. Most of the kits are junk and most the tools you likely won’t need.
 
Any "kit" is just to look cool.

Welcome to Crazy!

I think the most important tool is a good sieve set. Then concave cutters, then knob cutters. Everything else can be found in a cheaper longer lasting tool.

I love cuticle cutters.

Truth, I broke my concave cutters about 3 years ago and haven't missed em.

Kaneshin. I'd consider buying them from @Jeramiah at Sumo Bonsai supply. Cuz he's here and you hear nothing but good things about his operation.

Sorce
 
Where in SC? I recommend buying quality when you determine you have a need. Piecemeal. I like Kiku and Kaneshin. I trust that Joshua Roth is good, though I don't have any. I've also bought Tian stainless and while I'll probably go to one of the brands mentioned earlier for next purchases, these haven't disappointed.
I'm in Greenville. And thank you, at this point I just need some basic stuff, so this looks like it could be a good fit for me
 
Personally….I wouldn't recommend buying kits of tools. That’s my thinking and my way. You’ll quickly discover you don’t need, and won’t use, many items in the kit. You’ll find better tools after getting more experience. Tool kits do look cool though…and you’ll feel cool….but you don’t really need to spend on what’s not needed at this stage in your development. My advice is to use what you have and identify needs as you develop more…more experience. I have tools from several manufacturers…each for multiple uses. My go to tools most commonly used?…...Fish cutting scissors from Vietnam for root work and many other cutting applications….a Carbon Steel Knob Cutter for branch cutting and chop area shaping and clean up…...and a narrow Japanese pull saw for multiple cuts and trunk chopping.
Haha! Thanks for the advice! I'm beginning to see you're right. A lot of the tool kits also come with pots, and then those little grow bonsai from seeds deal. I'm starting to think buying a kit is just for the aesthetic.
 
Any "kit" is just to look cool.

Welcome to Crazy!

I think the most important tool is a good sieve set. Then concave cutters, then knob cutters. Everything else can be found in a cheaper longer lasting tool.

I love cuticle cutters.

Truth, I broke my concave cutters about 3 years ago and haven't missed em.

Kaneshin. I'd consider buying them from @Jeramiah at Sumo Bonsai supply. Cuz he's here and you hear nothing but good things about his operation.

Sorce
After I saw some of the kits being packaged with the grow bonsai from seed things, my opinion of them was somewhat deflated, haha.

And thank you! I think I've actually seen you around the site before! It's an honor to finally meet you, officially.

I've actually come across Sumo while I was down some of my rabbit holes. I'm thinking I might hit him up.

Thanks for the help!
 
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