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Chinese elms are not my favorite tree, but I have the obligatory single tree (and, of course, some small cuttings). I've been working this one several years now (since 2008 or 2009), and I'm not happy with it. It stands about 13 inches from pot rim.

I solicit suggestions.

First pic is the proposed front, but second pic could also be a front (except for that root).
 

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Root notwithstanding, I think the second photo is the better front. It's more interesting to the eye and, at least in the photo, seems to give the tree more depth. Have you thought about removing your lowest branch altogether. It doesn't seem to add anything to the entire composition, but perhaps you have plans for it?
 
Low branch was there as a sacrifice, and it helped. It may go or it may stay, depending on what side branches I can develop.
 
Chinese elms are one of my favorite trees, largely because of their small foliage, their hardiness, and their stellar response to Lingnan School clip-and-grow technique, which creates the most natural ramification techniques in all of bonsai.

Let me ask a basic question, if I might: if you don't like Chinese elms in general, and if you only want to put up with one specimen of the sake of rounding out your collection, what was it about this particular tree that appealed to you? I'm sincere in asking this, because it might tell me a lot about where you might want to take this tree.

Ideally, you would put this tree back into a large grow pot or even the ground, until it gave you a better idea where it might want to go and where you might want to go with it; but that might take years, so let's assume you leave it in its current pot.

I like the second image better than the first, and my first impression for both images is that the tree is far too top heavy to look convincing, and that it has far too much foliage, and that the foliage is sitting far too distal from the trunk. It would look better if it was more sparse and more compact, especially at the top.

Next I'd consider some radical Lingnan styling, which, BTW, would also progress much faster over the years if the tree was in a larger grow pot conducive to branch development. Your climate is not as ideal for this technique as the tropics are, but it should be good enough, and trying for rapid year-around growth by bringing it in each winter for a few years may help speed the process along as well.

You can see by the new foliage on the lowest branch that these trees are prone to push new growth on old branches, and this tendency to back bud can be facilitated by heavy pruning. This understanding would be the basis for your Lingnan technique, but either you or other readers may not be familiar with this technique, so let me try to spell it out.

I'd start first by stripping every last leaf off the tree right now, as it is, in its current pot for the moment. This is very easily and quickly done on Chinese elms by simply taking all wire off the tree, and then grabbing each whip one by one at its base with the thumb and index finger of one hand to protect the vital base connection for that whip, and then take the other hand and, starting at the base next to your opposite hand fingers, wrap your thumb, index and middle fingers around the branch securely, and quickly run them out along the whip to its end in one rapid motion, thus stripping every last leaf from that whip. You may even rip away the delicate growing tip of the whip a short ways, but it is completely OK since you will be shortening the whips anyway. This whole process will take about 3-10 minutes max for such a small tree, and some really minor clusters of leaves or isolated leaves should be all that remains, and these can be left on or taken off as well, depending whether growth there is wanted later on.

This will leave you with a growing tree (this time of year), that is bare, as you would see it in winter. This is the start. Now, #1 - you can see the tree's structure much better and make major styling decisions (probably needed); #2 - you can still see the nodes (bud swellings) left on each naked whip, and this will direct your next step.

On each denuded whip you want to keep, look back towards the base of it and decide which direction(s) you might want new growth to go. Then cut the whip off after either the second or third node, making the cut so that it slants out towards that node, which will help direct growth there. Do this for every whip you want to keep. The tree will look very bare at this time.

Fertilize (especially nitrogen) heavily over the next few months as new whips develop from the remaining two or three nodes on each whip, then repeat the process again. In you climate you should be able to do two or maybe three rounds of this each year. This will develop a very pleasing style of ramification under your control over the next few years, and a much more natural look to your branches than you can get with wrapped wiring on this species. Wiring should be confined to guy wires for general branch placement only, although this can also be developed over time with the clip-and-grow technique.

For years now, the only bonsai books I ever look at are some large old beauties from China, often only in Chinese, with page after page after page of the most beautiful trees ever made. Most people who know me well know that I've never liked the stylized images of Japanese trees, but prefer the more natural Chinese aesthetic. If you can find such books, or perhaps such images on line, it would give you some ideas for working with this Chinese elm. These trees are uniquely suited to that sort of styling, and you would probably be inspired to go in a completely different, and much more pleasing direction with this tree.

I hope that helps. Enjoy the tree.
 
Well. I'll save all that. The next owner of this tree is a relative youngster; he will have the time to do that kind of work -- especially the repotting/planting. I no longer do, alas.

I've not made a major blueprint for this one other than "informal upright." And, if it has too much foliage now, you should have seen it before th work that resulted in those pictures. :) I have defoliated regularly every summer. Never more than once. It got wired every winter when it was bare. I don't have trees indoors -- except briefly.

Thanks, Grouper. If I'd asked for detailed suggestions a few years ago it would have been great help.
 
From the first photo the second section of the second branch has to go, unless your planning a sacrifice. The top is too full and semetrical. I would say to excentuate the spiral when thinning out. It might look contrived now, but when it fills back in it would provide an asymmetric symmetry.
I get the compulsory elm disease, but mine involves ripping "volunteers" out of parking ties.
 

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I wonder what would happen if you rotated the tree from picture #1 about 20-30 degrees clock-wise. I think this would make it a convincing twin-trunk (similar to some of the classic looks for Japanese Maples). I think then the canopy should be thinned so that we can see what's going on in there. The primary trunk should then provide 2/3 of the canopy and the small trunk 1/3 of the canopy. I would lose the lower sacrifice stub. I think it does very little if anything for the composition. These are relatively small changes that I think would improve the tree a great deal.

Best.
 
I wonder what would happen if you rotated the tree from picture #1 about 20-30 degrees clock-wise. I think this would make it a convincing twin-trunk (similar to some of the classic looks for Japanese Maples). I think then the canopy should be thinned so that we can see what's going on in there. The primary trunk should then provide 2/3 of the canopy and the small trunk 1/3 of the canopy. I would lose the lower sacrifice stub. I think it does very little if anything for the composition. These are relatively small changes that I think would improve the tree a great deal.

Best.

Nope. That's a branch. It comes off the trunk much too high to qualify as a twin. A few years ago, I'd considered layering to turn it into a twin trunk, but because of laziness and the fact that I'm not wild about elms, took care of that idea.
 
Here, by the way is the tree about a year after I first got it.
 

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Here, by the way is the tree about a year after I first got it.
Interesting, the basis for a convincing lingnan tree was right here when you got it. That image has all the look of a Chinese styled tree.
 
Well, I got bored, and felt strong enough for a while to defoliate the tree. Here are a couple of pictures from the same viewpoint as the first two. Again, I'll listen to suggestions. I'm pretty sure that that short lowest "branch" will go.
 

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Hi, JKL. Much easier to see what's going on now. You know I like to get radical with trees . . . and, with this one, what interests me is the great branch going off to the right in the first photo, and to a lesser extent the branch coming off the main trunk just above the notch of that branch, and just opposite the healing scar on the first photo.

I'm not at a computer where I can do a virt now, so let me just try this with words. I'd do the things: I'd use wire to wrap the right-going branch snugly or perhaps just loosely in against the stovepipe trunk (to make that branch more nearly vertical, but not entirely so); I'd also make that branch the main trunk later by chopping the stovepipe above the back branch; finally I'd start the clip-and-grow styling - Smoke calls it directional pruning - by cutting way back on all the branchlets on those two remaining branches, and fertilizing heavily to get some long whips this year, and repeating the directional pruning of each cohort of new branchlets another one or two times this year to continue that process you'll be creating both ramification and directional placement of the new branches all at once, and in a very natural-looking manner. All that work may also force lots of new buds elsewhere, and you'll have a lot to choose from to improve the image later over the next few years. With you eye and sense of aesthetics, it'll be looking much better in just a few years I imagine.
 
I'm a bit confused. If I leave that back branch that will leave a fat, thick stub, and that will make it difficult to make the current right-hand branch the main trunk.

I'll try to get this started, but I don't have a "few years" to improve the image.

Is this something like your idea?
 

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