Need help identifying maple
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leatherback
The Treedeemer
Nice barking indeed. Is it japanese maple?
Bonsai Nut
Nuttier than your average Nut
Well, if it isn't tagged with a cultivar name it is just a green Japanese maple. The doesn't mean it isn't nice-looking, but it isn't a cultivar. Who knows? Maybe you have a positive freak genetic abnormality?
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Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
We tend to go by the ID. Why do you question it?
Cmd5235
Chumono
I would, if I had the chance. I'd do my first layer right where there's the little wiggle in the trunk- grow the top of the tree as a layer and use that to get some movement in the new trunk. The bottom will have that sweet bark texture, and you can always layer that in a few years if the roots are total crap below the surface. If you've got the space, I'd go for it.
Someone questioned me if it was a japanese maple. Just answering the question.
I think I will give it a go and try a few layerings to start. Thanks!
hardtimes
Mame
yea it could just be a japanese maple seedling that got the rough bark gene. seeds can be highly variable. these are two arakawa seedlings, one with green leaves and the other with tiny red leaves both are the same age and from the same bag of seeds. I wont know if these will have rough bark like arakawa until they are much older. i would say this kind of variability can be common in japanese maples
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Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
Bizarre...to question an ID. But fair enough
leatherback
The Treedeemer
I did not question an ID. No ID was given.
There are multiple maple species.
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
Ahhh I see. Missed all the before hand going on. Yes, true many cultivars.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Did not even wonder about cultivar.
Not even a species was mentioned.
Just "maple"
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
Ahhh I see.
KikurageOtomo
Mame
Looks like a Japanese Maple to me, couldn't wager to guess if its a cultivar or not without leaves though. New growth color looks right for this time of year as well (I'm going to assume a similar climate because they're wearing gloves?).
Shibui
Imperial Masterpiece
Won't be sure if it is a JM until the leaves mature in spring but, given the label I'd be pretty confident.
Bark, leaf, size, shape - everything is up for grabs when Japanese maple is grown from seed. I've grown a lot of seedlings and seen the whole gamut of all different combinations of traits and then some.
A grower who knows what they are about will only label seedlings as JM no, no matter where the seed comes from. Those who don't know or who are unscrupulous will often label seedlings with the parent name or at least those seedlings that show similar traits which is just plain wrong.
Whatever you have is a Japanese maple. If it has been grown from seed and has desirable characteristics you are entitled to give it a new cultivar name. If enough others are happy with the new characteristics it could become accepted as a new cultivar.
For now, just grow it for what it is - your very own Japanese maple.
rodeolthr
Shohin
I have seen this type of bark on several of my shirasawanum crosses. They seem to "bark up" quite young. It's not so much "rough bark" as more of a mature bark on small trees.....at least in the case of mine.
very good to know thanks !
