My contest juniper

RNbonsai

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Did this for the contest- thought I'd make a thread to keep up with it. Hard to tell in the pics but there are several pads initiated that I'll let fill and recover over the next year

Thinking about removing the upper trunk, but it's not blocking light- and it's providing foliage support-need to wire it better though and make sure it doesn't get to strong- for now I'll keep it maybe later I'll remove it
 

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Did this for the contest- thought I'd make a thread to keep up with it. Hard to tell in the pics but there are several pads initiated that I'll let fill and recover over the next year

Thinking about removing the upper trunk, but it's not blocking light- and it's providing foliage support-need to wire it better though and make sure it doesn't get to strong- for now I'll keep it maybe later I'll remove it

I really liked this one, gave it a vote even. It's a bit wild and crazy. I think I like it because it reminds me of the rambling bush/trees perched on rocks that I scramble through in the collecting grounds. This might sound weird but I think I'd like it even more if the foliage was spread out and more disorganized with lots of trunk and branches peeking through. It's hard to describe but this one somehow appeals to my unconventional side. Don't take my comments as advice, just comments. I like the upper trunk as part of the tree too. You could have used something less visible for guy wires I guess but at this stage of the game that works
 
I really liked this one, gave it a vote even. It's a bit wild and crazy. I think I like it because it reminds me of the rambling bush/trees perched on rocks that I scramble through in the collecting grounds. This might sound weird but I think I'd like it even more if the foliage was spread out and more disorganized with lots of trunk and branches peeking through. It's hard to describe but this one somehow appeals to my unconventional side. Don't take my comments as advice, just comments. I like the upper trunk as part of the tree too. You could have used something less visible for guy wires I guess but at this stage of the game that works

Yep, I agree... like Einstein's hair usually looked.
 
Yea copper on the inside- just wire I found at lowes. And then small craft wire for fine stuff.

One of these days I'll get real wire.
Yes I'm a beginner in the guy wire game lol.
I'll have to take a pic that shows the pad separation better
 
And thanks for the positive feedback- it's my favorite tree I've made so far
 
Did this for the contest- thought I'd make a thread to keep up with it. Hard to tell in the pics but there are several pads initiated that I'll let fill and recover over the next year

Thinking about removing the upper trunk, but it's not blocking light- and it's providing foliage support-need to wire it better though and make sure it doesn't get to strong- for now I'll keep it maybe later I'll remove it
Ok, I have to know. What is up with real Camino with a boat prop? And that's a big party back there!
 
Hahaha my neighbor is a 70 year old lady who owns a theater costume shop, she is very eccentric. The Camino is covered in pink dots and has high heels hanging on the bumper- she also has a SUV that has the same stuff. And next to her house she made a chair orchard- it's basically a bunch of chairs made to be and orchard as a joke. She's pretty cool
 
I'm-'ma hack, and proud of it... so you won't get ridicule about your wire choice from me. Personally, I'd by far sooner see someone buy an expensive tree with great nebari and little else, than show a tree with great wiring on a developed top, and a poor base.

If you're not too lazy to strip that plastic coating off of the wire, no one would really notice... and as an aside, copper wire is easy to anneal if you have access to good torch of some sort. Unlike steel that hardens when it is heated and doused with water, copper becomes soft and pliable. Heat the bare wire with a torch until it's red hot, then toss it straight into a pocket of water; its that simple... it will harden each time it's bent... so if you have a piece of wire that is just a little too pliable, flex it back and forth a number of times and it will stiffen up... this is due to the molecular structure, and the alignment and re-distribution of the molecules... when you anneal it, it simply changes the molecular structure back to the original state... I could get way more technical, it that would border on bull shit.

I have a totally copper baseball cap with brass rivets that I made from sheet copper a couple of years ago... it's a real conversation piece when I show it off... another odd thing about copper, is that IF you want the coppers to return to it's "like new pinkish state", you soak it in pickeling vinegar for a time... some say that it has to be hot (heated), but I've done it with cold vinegar and it works fine... and no, my hat ain't pink!
 
I've stripped it once- it wasn't too bad, not too much time and I just viewed it as part of the process. I was lazy here though, figured other than looks it probably doesn't matter? I might try annealing it if I can find a torch-sounds fun
 
I've stripped it once- it wasn't too bad, not too much time and I just viewed it as part of the process. I was lazy here though, figured other than looks it probably doesn't matter? I might try annealing it if I can find a torch-sounds fun

Don't get me wrong, if I was in a bit of a time crunch I'd leave the plastic on too... but, I suspect that if you take it off, the wire may be a wee bit stronger because it wouldn't be fighting the resistance of the plastic too... but the plastic won't rust or rot, so in my world, its perfectly acceptable... I doubt if Walter Pall would give you a blue ribbon if you showed it that way though... lol...

The other negative to leaving it on, is the larger diameter of the wire... might be a consideration for back-budding.
 
I roll my copper the same size as the "Ring of Fire" lol, on the stove.
Works great!
Just once round though, sometimes twice, but it shouldn't touch itself.....AHEM....

@RNbonsai ......

I gotta say, this entry may have simply been too late!

Excellent work!

I am glad you are proud of it!

Sorce
 
Yea copper on the inside- just wire I found at lowes. And then small craft wire for fine stuff.

One of these days I'll get real wire.
Yes I'm a beginner in the guy wire game lol.
I'll have to take a pic that shows the pad separation better
I anneal all of my own wire.
No need to strip it. Just toss it on the fire.
When the insulation is burned off completely toss it in cold water.
It's ready to use.
 
Did this for the contest- thought I'd make a thread to keep up with it. Hard to tell in the pics but there are several pads initiated that I'll let fill and recover over the next year

Thinking about removing the upper trunk, but it's not blocking light- and it's providing foliage support-need to wire it better though and make sure it doesn't get to strong- for now I'll keep it maybe later I'll remove it
what contest? cool tree!
 
One of these days I'll get real wire.

I just got a full set of Gremel wire just before the contest. This was the first time I've ever sat down in front of a tree with a full range of gauges to work with. It was nice. I've annealed my own before, worked just fine but I always only had a couple sizes on hand. I've done a lot of funny stuff that could have been done with wire if I had it. Unnecessary guy wires etc..I have three trees with chainsaw files wired to branches as levers right now, stuff like that. Poor wire selection has lead to kind of halfassed styling so far but has gotten things close enough that I can easily see where to go next. Anyway, short story, dirtbag styling using whatever you can scrounge up seems quite ok to me until trees reach a stage of development when it becomes more important to have the right tools for the job, my feelings currently.
Now that I've got the wire set I hope to keep up by annealing my own to maintain the selection for as long as I can without having to buy more.

Well wrapped wire does offer a lot of protection against damage while bending and soft annealed wire is easier to apply without damaging things too.
 
Don't get me wrong, if I was in a bit of a time crunch I'd leave the plastic on too... but, I suspect that if you take it off, the wire may be a wee bit stronger because it wouldn't be fighting the resistance of the plastic too... but the plastic won't rust or rot, so in my world, its perfectly acceptable... I doubt if Walter Pall would give you a blue ribbon if you showed it that way though... lol...

The other negative to leaving it on, is the larger diameter of the wire... might be a consideration for back-budding.

Deff interesting points in strength and bacjbudding- hadn't thought of that.
Damn I'll hide from Walter then lol
 
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