Logistics for the Masses, Observation, and Wireme's Ass

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Part One of the Understanding Sorce series.

Empty your Cup!

Bonsai has its logistical challenges.
The most blatant one being the "four man tree", the big ones.

So we're putting these 85ft light gauge metal roof trusses up.
About 4ft high, they are light, but flimsy and unruly.
To save money, which has since wasted it, of course, the powers that be already have us working foolishly.

To save a couple thousand dollars on a crane rig capable to set these individually as intended, we have since spent at least double that on man hours.

4 men, in four scissor lifts, driving out singles from the stack and setting them in place. 2 speak English, 2 speak Spanish, and it takes four way communication to do this without ruining the trusses, or injuring, or killing a man.

So just as we tell these newbs trees go outside and they don't listen...
I tell them we are doing this the wrong and they don't listen.

My well thought out observant plan is safer for man and material, faster, and consumes less energy by man and machine.

So after getting frustrated with their stupidity, I told them what they were doing is like having Edward Scissor hands put their condoms on.
As in, yes, the final product gets there, but for Christ sake it is not going to work as intended anymore!

Deaf ears of course....I only make up these analogies to keep myself from going fucking crazy!

Crazy! Each bundle has had a rope tied on the end....
On to the third bundle and my dick head foreman still yells about "let's go" when the rope is still in place.

It's like a game of telephone sending info to the other end of the building, with different languages!

Morons! No plan! No forethought, no observation, no good!

But get this.....yesterday...I was picking tomatoes with my 5 year old and 8 year old, I was handing tomatoes to one to brush off, and one would pop the stem and put it in the bucket...
My 5 year old said, "hey, this is like a team".
He noticed this assembly line teamwork concept which these grown men can not.

Utter fucking Morons!

So...

I want @wireme to become a legit, for profit, collector.

So I thought he should buy an ass.
What better than a pack animal to haul back some goods?

At one point I told them fellers the Egyptians would have had this done already, because one better, safer way to move those trusses was to carry them like a Pharoah.

Then you have this problem with an ass in bear and cat country.

But a braying ass may be one of the best early warning signs of a hunter near, so how to protect it?

How bout a small iron lean to....

Picture a regular cage....

But add a set of bars in between, set a bit further inside the cage than the others, placed on individual or group hinges, so when the ass kicks, they swing out and bop the hunter in the face.

So here's some random shit that pertains to bonsai.

This thread is going to get real boring real fast.

Can you allow me some fun in posting any other random shit, like, "toaster", or @sparklemotion "knitting", or anything else....

That we can think into bonsai relevance?

Sorce
 
These trusses are supposed to support the themselves.
20170927_081712.jpg

So That shoring shouldn't be there.
Like without it, it will fall.
But it has to come out eventually!

When we slid this into place...
To the "right measurement" do you think we actually hit the lottery...
Somehow just bumping this broke piece right up to the that temporary randomly placed shoring?20170927_081634.jpg

Unlikely or impossible.

More likely it shifted everything else behind it.

Here is what's left of the main ridge.20170927_105155.jpg

Sorce
 
Here is what's left of the main ridge.

DAMN! So now it costs double then done properly the first time...

Reminds me of something I landed up doing to that Serrisa with all the root work yesterday - Since I damn near drowned it a couple weeks back I noticed after repot I should have done it two years ago! I did a Cowboy Chop seeing I just cut off half or more of the roots... Only difference is mine is not repairable :p But hey I have more and will know better next time :oops:
The similarity is - it cost me twice the time...

Grimmy
 
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These trusses are supposed to support the themselves.
View attachment 162150

So That shoring shouldn't be there.
Like without it, it will fall.
But it has to come out eventually!

When we slid this into place...
To the "right measurement" do you think we actually hit the lottery...
Somehow just bumping this broke piece right up to the that temporary randomly placed shoring?View attachment 162149

Unlikely or impossible.

More likely it shifted everything else behind it.

Here is what's left of the main ridge.View attachment 162151

Sorce
I'm with you man, dealing with that shit weekly.
This is how much shoring a 30 year old contractor orders to support a wall that "DOES NOT NEED BEAM STRUTURE" under it, AFTER they remove it and the roof sagged a foot. Then bitched at me because I charged 3 times what he could have spent to do it right.
image.jpeg This structure was engineered to hang from the ceiling by a 2" square tube with 10 ga wall at 3,440 lbs. The contractor said it was to support 10,000 lbs of glass! So it was not engineered to hold the glass, only its own weight.image.jpeg
They are trying to get people hurt and waste money constantly!
 
These trusses are supposed to support the themselves.
View attachment 162150

So That shoring shouldn't be there.
Like without it, it will fall.
But it has to come out eventually!

When we slid this into place...
To the "right measurement" do you think we actually hit the lottery...
Somehow just bumping this broke piece right up to the that temporary randomly placed shoring?View attachment 162149

Unlikely or impossible.

More likely it shifted everything else behind it.

Here is what's left of the main ridge.View attachment 162151

Sorce
Is that petzl climbing helmet osha approved !!?
 
They are trying to get people hurt and waste money constantly!

Put me in a Pre-war Building any day!
Unless it been remodeled!

My list of buildings I'll never enter is growing!

Thanks for sharing!

Is that petzl climbing helmet osha approved

Fosha !

Lol!

That's another thing these guys are good for...

Making up rules On top of Osha Standards that return things to unsafe!

Tying off is for Heroin addicts!

Sorce
 
DAMN! So now it costs double then done properly the first time...

I think it's past double.

And if that part caves like it wants to, as you can see the beam rolling and the pressure pressuring.....

The whole shibang will have to go!

Then we doubling tens of thousands not just thousands!

Then the Engineer Fucks, I call em a slew of things, when they left, "it smelled less like papyrus ", ain't that the shit they print degrees on? Anyway.....they come in with gym shoes....bunch a pass the buck fucks, no one willing to take responsibility, and I just start wanting to accidentally drop heavy sharp shit, try and get me toe souvenir you know what I'm saying!?

Anyway, they can't observe past a computer screen, it all looked shiny to them!

Ha!

The directions, lol! I call this shit a jigsaw puzzle with directions! The directions said if anything is damaged in shipping, or needs to be repaired....

$125 and hour.

Half the stuff was already structurally compromised when they fucked the logistics, shipped em sideways, and bent em all to shit with the straps!

And the driver busted out a SUV window the first attempt at making a turn into the place!

Page 2 showed the proper method to rig em for craning.
Which we did wrong and further damaged them.

But again, all this stuff my 8 year old daughter Probly could have figured out just by watching, and understanding how a fucking teeter taughter works!

So how about wireme's ass!

I'll share more Moron stuff tomorow!

Sorce
 
I can't say that I am on the path to understanding Sorce, but I do know to Never Trust a Truss.
 
I'm an engineer, no offense meant and none taken, who sometimes does capital projects where I work, basically contracting out work on our facilities. Last fall I had an offsite warehouse retrofitted with LED lighting by a contractor shoved down my threat by corporate. They had a third of the warehouse done when I showed them it was not meeting specs with my light meter. The installers did not HAVE a light meter. After looking at the lights and calling up the info online I figured out they were hanging them 90 degrees wrong, so the light was spreading directly across the aisle, making islands of light, instead of down the lengths of the aisle to blend together.

After re-doing that and then having further time overruns because how the lights were going to be attached and wired had not been thoroughly figured out when they quoted the job, I am asked by their boss if I can free up any more money from the contingency funding. What do you think I said?

Now, to be clear, the guys doing the installation did pretty good work. I don't blame them for not having been given the proper instructions, not being given a light meter, not having anyone think out how the lights were going to be hung, or how long the pigtails had to be to wire them into the existing sockets. That was all the responsibility of their boss.

So there's a story from the customer perspective.

This week I got an email from them asking if I would be a reference for someone in the area considering using them for a job. This time I said "sure!"

Sounds like your company could have a lawsuit on its hands eventually.
 
I'm an engineer, no offense meant and none taken, who sometimes does capital projects where I work, basically contracting out work on our facilities. Last fall I had an offsite warehouse retrofitted with LED lighting by a contractor shoved down my threat by corporate. They had a third of the warehouse done when I showed them it was not meeting specs with my light meter. The installers did not HAVE a light meter. After looking at the lights and calling up the info online I figured out they were hanging them 90 degrees wrong, so the light was spreading directly across the aisle, making islands of light, instead of down the lengths of the aisle to blend together.

After re-doing that and then having further time overruns because how the lights were going to be attached and wired had not been thoroughly figured out when they quoted the job, I am asked by their boss if I can free up any more money from the contingency funding. What do you think I said?

Now, to be clear, the guys doing the installation did pretty good work. I don't blame them for not having been given the proper instructions, not being given a light meter, not having anyone think out how the lights were going to be hung, or how long the pigtails had to be to wire them into the existing sockets. That was all the responsibility of their boss.

So there's a story from the customer perspective.

This week I got an email from them asking if I would be a reference for someone in the area considering using them for a job. This time I said "sure!"

Sounds like your company could have a lawsuit on its hands eventually.
Structural Engineer?
 
I think it's past double.

And if that part caves like it wants to, as you can see the beam rolling and the pressure pressuring.....

The whole shibang will have to go!

Then we doubling tens of thousands not just thousands!

Then the Engineer Fucks, I call em a slew of things, when they left, "it smelled less like papyrus ", ain't that the shit they print degrees on? Anyway.....they come in with gym shoes....bunch a pass the buck fucks, no one willing to take responsibility, and I just start wanting to accidentally drop heavy sharp shit, try and get me toe souvenir you know what I'm saying!?

Anyway, they can't observe past a computer screen, it all looked shiny to them!

Ha!

The directions, lol! I call this shit a jigsaw puzzle with directions! The directions said if anything is damaged in shipping, or needs to be repaired....

$125 and hour.

Half the stuff was already structurally compromised when they fucked the logistics, shipped em sideways, and bent em all to shit with the straps!

And the driver busted out a SUV window the first attempt at making a turn into the place!

Page 2 showed the proper method to rig em for craning.
Which we did wrong and further damaged them.

But again, all this stuff my 8 year old daughter Probly could have figured out just by watching, and understanding how a fucking teeter taughter works!

So how about wireme's ass!

I'll share more Moron stuff tomorow!

Sorce

Fuck the donkey man. Get me a helicopter!
Will talk about your idea later, worked all day, got home worked all evening. Done.
 
COMMUNICATION!
No one wants to communicate properly anymore.
In construction especially everyone is to cool to call and talk to an engineer and say "let's have lunch and take a look at this project" just to see how it's going maybe. Or SHIT! If there is a PROBLEM! Let's really look at this before we both look stupid or get FUCKED!
I have heard human beings in the field say "I don't make an engineers money"
"I don't get paid to make fuck ups like this"
Well most of the time that engineer is just a nice normal human being that would love to have lunch! Burn a joint! Talk Bonsai! And fix the fucking problem!
Rather than be called the bad guy for misunderstanding what the poorly communicated build was about anyway.
Most of the time these builds are so stressed to the MAX and crunched for time that no one HUMAN BEING can even eat a proper LUNCH! That may have got it solved before a bunch of know it at alls helped shit FAIL while blaming the guy just like you who's father pushed him into a position, while only wanting to talk Bonsai and burn a joint.
I no longer smoke joints ( for a long time now) but when I did I smoke some of the finest with some great engineers and got shit done RIGHT!
One of my best friends is a retired UPS STRUCTURAL engineer. I have spent a lot of time around engineers and understand that they smoke and shit the same as me.
An engineers letter head is always on the drawings! Call that motherfucker and see if he wants to have LUNCH! Or sit in the truck and smoke some CRACK before you hit the titty bar!
Save a fucking life! Or project! In the projects :D









Mic drop:eek:
 
don't blame them for not having been given the proper instructions, not being given a light meter, not having anyone think out how the lights were going to be hung, or how long the pigtails had to be to wire them into the existing sockets. That was all the responsibility of their boss.

Good nono, GREAT to know someone in your position feels that way! Even if it is in another state, and NEVER around my jobs!

But then again ....
everyone is to cool to call and talk t

So who knows?

I worked with a legit Structural Engineer before, 90 year old Indian feller who is a Great Man!
Pretty sure 90, and Indian are the keys there!

These young fucks don't know shit.

I told the guy who came out to fix the lifts they better have a ton of replacement USB hubs for these lifts, Cuz I'm jamming a screwdriver in every fucking one of them!

These fucks will stand around on Facebook all day...
But when it comes to a Google able question.....
No one uses their phone, just thumbs in asses!

So what the Fuck do we need USB chargers for?

The pussification of America!

Sorce
 
Wax pens and vaporizors.

That's what I was thinking!

Though it would be nice if they would interconnect!

Especially doing the, what I called,

Dry Synchronized Swimming for morons!

Moving them trusses with four lift baskets.

Sorce
 
I'm surprised everyone lived doing it the way you guys had to

We ain't done yet!

Won't be me!

They ordered the proper spreader bar for the front half.

But they're still talking about rigging them their way, instead of the way stated in the instructions....

Problem....kindie Garten physics bumps up to include a bit of geometry in lifting these profiles....20170930_052709.jpg

That yard there....

Lol..

That's a plot my neighbor is letting me design.
I have a few sketches on scraps at work, since I got a lot of standing around time!

Great neighbors, they've given the kids 2 bikes, and she's going to teach my daughter jewelry making.

When she asked me if I would help her with this plot she said, "you have a good eye, and every morning I walk the dog I see you just looking at those trees, I can tell how much you are thinking about them"

Lol! Is it that obvious!

What an honor, as their yard is beautiful!

This'll be my first right proper full on plot design reference, I think working for morons is coming to a close!

28 years later!

Sorce
 
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