Is this a Chinese elm?

[Metalgrootvader]

While walking down to the river I spotted this tree. Maybe 15' tall, straight and 4-5" thick. The leaves ar just a bit over an inch long.
So here are my questions:
Is this a Chinese Elm (I think so)
Even though it is very straight will it have potential?
Should I cut it or dig it up?
Those chew holes to be expected?

Clueless!

 

[Paradox]

It is probably the American elm that is native to North America, not chinese elm.

Not sure how it will respond to chopping.

In any case I wouldnt dig it until late winter/early spring. Now is the wrong time to dig.

 

[M. Frary]

Looks like American elm.
There is a thread on collecting just the tree you are describing in the collecting sub forum. Called let's go collect an elm. I'm clueless about how to post links.
These trees take chopping and collection very well. In early spring. Chop them to the height you want just before collection. No need to cut it high. For a 4" diameter tree cut it at 8"from the base. They sprout out of the cut so use no sealer on the wound.
Roots can be cut back mercilessly at time of collection. They only need a few to take off and grow like a beast.
Remember that this can only be done in the spring. Before the buds open,just as they are swelling.

 

[Txhorticulture]

While walking down to the river I spotted this tree.

We're you walking in china? cultivated plants can escape cultivation. They might even become 'naturalized' which means they reproduce in the wild. Sometimes they can be so successful they are considered invasive. Which means they are both 'naturalized' and annoying or damage the ecosystem. But Chinese elm to my knowledge is niether.

But I do think you're looking at an elm of some sort. So good work

 

[Metalgrootvader]

It is probably the American elm that is native to North America, not chinese elm.

Not sure how it will respond to chopping.

In any case I wouldnt dig it until late winter/early spring. Now is the wrong time to dig.

We're you walking in china? cultivated plants can escape cultivation. They might even become 'naturalized' which means they reproduce in the wild. Sometimes they can be so successful they are considered invasive. Which means they are both 'naturalized' and annoying or damage the ecosystem. But Chinese elm to my knowledge is niether.

But I do think you're looking at an elm of some sort. So good work

http://www.oplin.org/tree/fact pages/elm_chinese/elm_chinese.html
That's how I came to my conclusion...or hypothesis...or...something
The leaves are rough on the underside which according to the same site , American elms lack
http://www.oplin.org/tree/fact pages/elm_american/elm_american.html

 

[sorce]

I love that oplin site!

I think we get all types of Hybrids.

Sorce

 

[Metalgrootvader]

Now where this tree is growing is an area filled with old busted up concrete, fill dirt etc that was allowed to grow wild, so maybe its parent was a planted lawn tree?

 

[sorce]

Possility..I found a Barberry today in a place like that.

The holes? Elm leaf beetles.
I've seen only 2-3 at home in 5 years, but they are everywhere!

I reckon people on the ground see em more. I'm 3rd floor. No close elms.

They over winter in the soil. Gotta watch for them on collected stuff. And that branch!

Sorce

 

[brewmeister83]

definitely an American elm species - the asymmetric leaf bases give it away (chinese have symmetrical bases to their leaves)

If it's red elm (U. rubra) the leaf stalks/twigs will be slightly fuzzy
American elm (U. americana) doesn't have fuzz on its twigs

 

[Metalgrootvader]

American...Chinese....Rock.... no matter what it is I love the small leaves.

 

[Stickroot]

American...Chinese....Rock.... no matter what it is I love the small leaves.

Dig it!
Chop it!
Pot it!
Let's see some action, soon!
Oh and keep it alive

 

[Metalgrootvader]

Dig it!
Chop it!
Pot it!
Let's see some action, soon!
Oh and keep it alive

But I should wait until late winter/early spring, correct?

 

[Bunjeh]

Sure it's not Zelkova?

 

[Stickroot]

But I should wait until late winter/early spring, correct?

Yes, wait.

 

[Metalgrootvader]

I am going to go out there tomorrow after work and get some pix of the whole tree, bark and base of trunk.

 

[Metalgrootvader]

Well now that I have had a chance to look at the bark I concede it is an American Elm. Pencil straight and about 4" in diameter.

OK folks....this is where you dazzle me with your knowledge and tell me how to proceed with this in the early spring!

 

[sorce]

Well now that I have had a chance to look at the bark I concede it is an American Elm. Pencil straight and about 4" in diameter.

OK folks....this is where you dazzle me with your knowledge and tell me how to proceed with this in the early spring!

I would look for a good place to layer a branch off, if you must have part of this tree.

It in itself would be a lot of work for little reward. Unless a lot more work is rewarding to you!

I find there to be a lot of good candidates at the rivers edge. Flooding, ice damage.

Sometimes if the bank is undercut, they can be pulled easy too.

Nice ladybug!

Sorce

 

[M. Frary]

It in itself would be a lot of work for little reward.

How so?
Perfect candidate for either chop and grow or broom.

 

[sorce]

I seen some beavered ones with a lot of that work done already.

I guess I don't look to whole trees!

But yeah- you're right!

Sorce

 

[Smoke]

Elm, Foemina hybrid