Help with a Sageretia

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Hi, I've had a Sageretia for a few months now. A month ago I repotted it because the substrate that it came in was regular potting soil. I wanted to ask about ideal location of the species, the irrigation requirements and anything else that I should know. Thanks.

Gastón,

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Welcome Gaston -

[1] Not a Tropical - hardy to zone 7 in the ground as a hedge.
Sub-Tropical.
Will rest from Christmas to Februray.
Bonsai pot go to zone 8.

[2] In a Bonsai pot, morning sun and a little evening sun or dappled
light all day.

[3] Soil that can drain well, but retains moisture.

[4] Wounds bigger than this [ ] will not heal, more likely the heartwood will rot.
So you have to be on your toes with suckers.
It is a vine that wants to be a shrub ----------- branches to under 9 m.

Easy shrub to look after.
Good Day
Anthony

There are around 5 different types - some are branchy, lots of leaves, but no trunk thickening.
some have trunks but no branches and so on.

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Hello, Gaston!

I wish that I had something to tell you, but I don't have any sageretia and have not ever attempted to keep one. I used the goole-ator to look it up and there are numerous care guides for this species, it looks like Anthony may have given you some sound advice. It appears to be an interesting species.

I am sorry that I don't have more to offer, but I try to only offer advice on species that I have and am familiar with so that it is good advice. I just have not worked with these.
 

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Friend, the two sageretias that I have are great thanks to your advice !!! thank you very much.

A question, is a tree sensitive to wind or drafts are a benefit?

thank you and tell you that I have both of them outside but in the shade, only the sun rises at sunrise and sunset
 

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@Gaston,

Hello stranger, been a while.
They like gentle breezes, strong winds damage the leaves.

It is a vining shrub to lengths of I believe 30 feet.[ 9.144 m ]
Not a tree.
Hope that helps.

How about some images?
Expect small flowers and tiny red berries ------- Sageretia t is
also known as - The Sparrow's Plum.
Good Day
Anthony

Another to tease you

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beautiful your Sageretia!

Yes, of course, here are some photos. The sageretia of the yellow colander does not know what's wrong with it that it does not fully sprout, I touch other branches and they're not fragile (dead)

@Anthony

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@Gaston ,

Nice.
Can you tell me what you are trying to achieve, with those pots ?

Sageretia, is naturally a finely rooted shrub. Does not need air- pruning
pots.
Rather find a soil mix that keeps the plants - Lush.

You don't need to defoliate [ if they are not responding to the cold ]
the leaves are naturally small and get smaller as you get it happier
and happier. More branches will bring in smaller leaves.

Focus more on health.

Do about 10 cuttings, practice on them not the mother plants.

Observe how wounds heal.

Suckers. Where they occur and why. What would they do ?

Type of fertiliser - say 12 N, very little P or K.

Please keep showing results.
Good Day
Anthony
 

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@Gaston ,

Nice.
Can you tell me what you are trying to achieve, with those pots ?

Sageretia, is naturally a finely rooted shrub. Does not need air- pruning
pots.
Rather find a soil mix that keeps the plants - Lush.

You don't need to defoliate [ if they are not responding to the cold ]
the leaves are naturally small and get smaller as you get it happier
and happier. More branches will bring in smaller leaves.

Focus more on health.

Do about 10 cuttings, practice on them not the mother plants.

Observe how wounds heal.

Suckers. Where they occur and why. What would they do ?

Type of fertiliser - say 12 N, very little P or K.

Please keep showing results.
Good Day
Anthony

I've had little in the world of bonsai, I read that this type of pots make the roots grow strong.
So you think I'm not going to notice any difference if I put a Sageretia in this kind of pot?

I have stripped the one from the white pot because the leaves were in very poor condition

and that of the green pot because after the transplant all its leaves were weakened
Do you think they will grow leaves on the other branches or not?

Oh they are planted in 75% akadama and 25% Kiriyauzuna

This is the fertilizer that I put

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Thanks again for your comments
 
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@Gaston .

Suggestion - do cuttings.

Plant in a local mix . Explore, create your own.

Akadama breaks down into clay and pumice.
Sageretia has fine feeder roots.
You have to wash off the Akadama, When, depends on
your climate, watering and so on.

Suggestion an inorganic that does not break down in
use.
We use silica based gravel [ sand blasting or concrete mixtures ]
and compost.
You can test peat moss.

What is available around you as say, stone ?

Take written notes.
Good Day
Anthony
 
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