Blueberry Pruning

WallyJ

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I just picked up a Blueberry Buckles bush, shrub, tree...with a very nice double trunk and movement. My question is after this fruiting season, how far back can I prune the branches? Can I actually go into the hardwood (barked area)...and do they back bud?

Thanks,
Wally (Zone 7b)
 
Yes, blueberries back bud in a manner very similar to Rhododendron and Azalea. Fruit growers begin pruning right after harvesting berries. Depending on time available, pruning can go on through the winter. New flower buds for next years bloom will form on new branches in July and August. The branches that will develop the most flower buds are at least 4 years old, For fruit you prune to have as much wood as possible between 4 and 15 years old. Older branches slowly decline.

The root system of a blueberry will live a century or more. Branches come up from the roots as a whip the first year. Flower buds are usually larger terminal buds. Occasionally lateral buds will flower, but normally the terminal is the main flowering point. Each year brings more ramification of the original "whip" like branch coming up from the ground. Somewhere between 20 and 50 years the branch becomes senile and fades away. Each year a healthy blueberry should send up several "whips" from the roots if it is healthy. This habit defines them as a shrub rather than as a tree,

Pruning for fruit production keeps the blueberry looking like a "shrub" in that you want dozens of branches (canes) shooting straight up from the ground, hopefully tall enough you don't have to bend over too much to pick the berries. The reason I only planted highbush blueberries, no hands and knees picking for me.

Pruning for bonsai you will want to keep just one to three branches (trunks) for as long as possible, allowing new to develop only when its clear your oldest trunk is "aging out" which might happen around 40 years or so.

In pots blueberries seem to need a deeper pot than for example a maple, and would be a bad choice for root over rock styles. The roots MUST have water available, they are not drought tolerant, but they do not like to be too wet either. Yes, their habitat includes bogs, but most blueberry farms in Michigan are on slopes of very sandy soil. The soils are always moist, but are not ponding except maybe in late winter and early spring. Staghorn sumac, and red oak tend to be common indicator plants that the soil is acidic enough. In pots equal parts fir bark and Canadian peat moss blend as the base. To this base add either perlite or pumice to "lighten the mix". Top dress about 15 ml powdered sulfur per 4 liters of media blend to knock down pH if you have more than 120 ppm calcium carbonate in your irrigation water. They do require an "organic" media, they do not do particularly well in pure Kanuma or pure Akadama. A mix of akadama-pumic-lava will kill them in time. They are dependent on certain mycorrhiza, believed to be endo-mycorrhiza but soil microbe research is difficult. Use a fir bark - peat blend to give the mycorrhiza something to eat.

Again for fruit production blueberries need more than 6 hours of direct sun. Full sun in northern climates. Some shade in southern climates. Highbush varieties flower buds are hardy to -18 F and vegetative buds are hardy to -25 F. So for northern highbush types, winter protection is trivial.

Insects can be a problem. Seek out early maturing fruit for your growing area. Key is to have your fruit ripen before Spotted Winged Fruit Fly populations get high enough to find and attack your fruit. We grew 'Duke', 'Sweetheart' and the latest maturing was 'Bluecrop' all were done being harvested before end of July. By August in Michigan, SWFF was so bad any fruit left was quickly reduced to mush as soon as it started turning blue. Blue attracted the fruit fly. By having early varieties we were able to operate as "No Spray Organic", a big cost saving and a value add on.

Absolute best flavor blueberry? 'Bluecrop' is my favorite, and 'Elizabeth' is a close second. The 'Elizabeth' is not the best for commercial use, but the flavor is exquisite.
 
Yes, blueberries back bud in a manner very similar to Rhododendron and Azalea. Fruit growers begin pruning right after harvesting berries. Depending on time available, pruning can go on through the winter. New flower buds for next years bloom will form on new branches in July and August. The branches that will develop the most flower buds are at least 4 years old, For fruit you prune to have as much wood as possible between 4 and 15 years old. Older branches slowly decline.

The root system of a blueberry will live a century or more. Branches come up from the roots as a whip the first year. Flower buds are usually larger terminal buds. Occasionally lateral buds will flower, but normally the terminal is the main flowering point. Each year brings more ramification of the original "whip" like branch coming up from the ground. Somewhere between 20 and 50 years the branch becomes senile and fades away. Each year a healthy blueberry should send up several "whips" from the roots if it is healthy. This habit defines them as a shrub rather than as a tree,

Pruning for fruit production keeps the blueberry looking like a "shrub" in that you want dozens of branches (canes) shooting straight up from the ground, hopefully tall enough you don't have to bend over too much to pick the berries. The reason I only planted highbush blueberries, no hands and knees picking for me.

Pruning for bonsai you will want to keep just one to three branches (trunks) for as long as possible, allowing new to develop only when its clear your oldest trunk is "aging out" which might happen around 40 years or so.

In pots blueberries seem to need a deeper pot than for example a maple, and would be a bad choice for root over rock styles. The roots MUST have water available, they are not drought tolerant, but they do not like to be too wet either. Yes, their habitat includes bogs, but most blueberry farms in Michigan are on slopes of very sandy soil. The soils are always moist, but are not ponding except maybe in late winter and early spring. Staghorn sumac, and red oak tend to be common indicator plants that the soil is acidic enough. In pots equal parts fir bark and Canadian peat moss blend as the base. To this base add either perlite or pumice to "lighten the mix". Top dress about 15 ml powdered sulfur per 4 liters of media blend to knock down pH if you have more than 120 ppm calcium carbonate in your irrigation water. They do require an "organic" media, they do not do particularly well in pure Kanuma or pure Akadama. A mix of akadama-pumic-lava will kill them in time. They are dependent on certain mycorrhiza, believed to be endo-mycorrhiza but soil microbe research is difficult. Use a fir bark - peat blend to give the mycorrhiza something to eat.

Again for fruit production blueberries need more than 6 hours of direct sun. Full sun in northern climates. Some shade in southern climates. Highbush varieties flower buds are hardy to -18 F and vegetative buds are hardy to -25 F. So for northern highbush types, winter protection is trivial.

Insects can be a problem. Seek out early maturing fruit for your growing area. Key is to have your fruit ripen before Spotted Winged Fruit Fly populations get high enough to find and attack your fruit. We grew 'Duke', 'Sweetheart' and the latest maturing was 'Bluecrop' all were done being harvested before end of July. By August in Michigan, SWFF was so bad any fruit left was quickly reduced to mush as soon as it started turning blue. Blue attracted the fruit fly. By having early varieties we were able to operate as "No Spray Organic", a big cost saving and a value add on.

Absolute best flavor blueberry? 'Bluecrop' is my favorite, and 'Elizabeth' is a close second. The 'Elizabeth' is not the best for commercial use, but the flavor is exquisite.
Hi sir,

Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge and experience in growing blueberries.
I have a small garden and intend to grow 6 advance bushes of blueberries in the ground (toddler enjoys picking blueberries at the farm so we thought why not recreate the experience back home). I've combed through most of your posts and am still unable to determine if I should amend my planting bed as though I'm growing the berries in a pot (i.e. dig a wide and shallow hole, add peat moss, pine bark and pumice).
Your earlier posts recommended including 5% to 10% as hardwood sawdust, may I also inquire if that is still relevant as I don't see the it being brought up in your more recent posts.
Again, many thanks for your selfless sharing =)
 
Your profile does not list a location. Which means my answer will have to have conditional clauses.

IF your soils are granite derived, naturally acidic, you can amend the soil in a garden bed. And yes, I forgot to mention sawdust. Its been a few years since I sold the blueberry farm and my plants in my side yard have not been repotted in a while. I forgot.

Fir bark, peat, saw dust & a small amount of elemental sulfur if your water is alkaline.

Most of eastern North America and much of Western Europe have soils that are limestone derived. Limestone soils will kill blueberries in a few years. Here I would recommend large container growing, using 20 gallon or larger (80 liter or larger) low and wide containers to grow the blueberries. The containers keep the the blueberry isolated from the limestone soils.

Tops dressing yearly with 5 to 10 cm of fresh fir bark peat blend and a dusting of sulfur will keep the soil "fresh" in the container for years, so "repotting" will not be needed for a decade or more at a time.

Fertilizer - blueberry CAN NOT absorb nitrates. They can only utilize amino acids and ammonia or ammonium ions. Only use organic fertilizers or ammonium containing fertilizers. Usually "acid plant food" will be mostly ammonium compounds. Low doses of household ammonia cleaner, (4% active 5ml per 4 liters water dilution) will work Or a fish lysate such as the product offered by Dramm of Wisconsin. I like the Dramm product.
 
Your profile does not list a location. Which means my answer will have to have conditional clauses.

IF your soils are granite derived, naturally acidic, you can amend the soil in a garden bed. And yes, I forgot to mention sawdust. Its been a few years since I sold the blueberry farm and my plants in my side yard have not been repotted in a while. I forgot.

Fir bark, peat, saw dust & a small amount of elemental sulfur if your water is alkaline.

Most of eastern North America and much of Western Europe have soils that are limestone derived. Limestone soils will kill blueberries in a few years. Here I would recommend large container growing, using 20 gallon or larger (80 liter or larger) low and wide containers to grow the blueberries. The containers keep the the blueberry isolated from the limestone soils.

Tops dressing yearly with 5 to 10 cm of fresh fir bark peat blend and a dusting of sulfur will keep the soil "fresh" in the container for years, so "repotting" will not be needed for a decade or more at a time.

Fertilizer - blueberry CAN NOT absorb nitrates. They can only utilize amino acids and ammonia or ammonium ions. Only use organic fertilizers or ammonium containing fertilizers. Usually "acid plant food" will be mostly ammonium compounds. Low doses of household ammonia cleaner, (4% active 5ml per 4 liters water dilution) will work Or a fish lysate such as the product offered by Dramm of Wisconsin. I like the Dramm product.
Hi Sir,

Thanks for getting back to me!

My apologies for not giving a proper introduction, I'm Lucas, am currently residing in Ballarat, Victoria (Australia). The native soil here is rather acidic (explains the number of blueberry farms in the area), however I'm not certain if the soil in my garden bed is acidic as the previous owner grew lilly pillies on said flower bed. That said, the garden bed was extremely clayey and so we dug holes, laid down geofabric pots (170L) into the holes, filled the pots/holes with 40% acidic potting mix (peat moss is prohibitively expensive here), 40% pine bark chips, and 20% compost. I made the mistake of not checking the content of the compost and subsequently discovered that the pH of the mix was creeping up, likely due to the lime used to suppressed the smell of the composted manure and the high phosphorus in the compost might have also bonded with the iron to form in insoluble iron phosphate. I have since added elemental sulfur to the mix to address the pH issue though it'll unlikely take effect until warmer temps. I will be adding fulvic acid in hopes to chelate any residual iron in the soil and further supplementing with chelated liquid iron. I'm sorry it seems like I have digressed.

The acidic potting mix that I use contains wetting agent which from my understanding is not ideal in terms of drainage. I have the intention of adding pumice to improve the drainage, and would like to seek your thoughts on whether it'll help and if so, what size pumice would be ideal? I will also be adding small amount of peat moss around the planting hole just to be on the safe side.

On fertilizer, may I know what's your take/experience with liquid ammonium sulfate? It is sold here as a fast acting pH reductor for lawns, but I assume the ammonium content would act as fertilizer as well. Do you find better results with fish fertilizers compared to chemical based ones?

What's your experience, if any, with ericoid mycorrhiza? I came across multiple conflicting opinions, and since they are not available in Australia and have to be imported, I'd like to proceed only if they make sense.

I'm sorry for bombarding you with so many questions, and I'm truly appreciative of kind sharing.
 
Hi Sir,

Thanks for getting back to me!

My apologies for not giving a proper introduction, I'm Lucas, am currently residing in Ballarat, Victoria (Australia). The native soil here is rather acidic (explains the number of blueberry farms in the area), however I'm not certain if the soil in my garden bed is acidic as the previous owner grew lilly pillies on said flower bed. That said, the garden bed was extremely clayey and so we dug holes, laid down geofabric pots (170L) into the holes, filled the pots/holes with 40% acidic potting mix (peat moss is prohibitively expensive here), 40% pine bark chips, and 20% compost. I made the mistake of not checking the content of the compost and subsequently discovered that the pH of the mix was creeping up, likely due to the lime used to suppressed the smell of the composted manure and the high phosphorus in the compost might have also bonded with the iron to form in insoluble iron phosphate. I have since added elemental sulfur to the mix to address the pH issue though it'll unlikely take effect until warmer temps. I will be adding fulvic acid in hopes to chelate any residual iron in the soil and further supplementing with chelated liquid iron. I'm sorry it seems like I have digressed.

The acidic potting mix that I use contains wetting agent which from my understanding is not ideal in terms of drainage. I have the intention of adding pumice to improve the drainage, and would like to seek your thoughts on whether it'll help and if so, what size pumice would be ideal? I will also be adding small amount of peat moss around the planting hole just to be on the safe side.

On fertilizer, may I know what's your take/experience with liquid ammonium sulfate? It is sold here as a fast acting pH reductor for lawns, but I assume the ammonium content would act as fertilizer as well. Do you find better results with fish fertilizers compared to chemical based ones?

What's your experience, if any, with ericoid mycorrhiza? I came across multiple conflicting opinions, and since they are not available in Australia and have to be imported, I'd like to proceed only if they make sense.

I'm sorry for bombarding you with so many questions, and I'm truly appreciative of kind sharing.
@Leo in N E Illinois , would you know if there are any downside to using scoria instead of pumice? My understanding is that the core difference lies in different mineral/metal composition.
 
Welcome Aboard Bonsai Nut!

Sounds like @Leo in N E Illinois is covering the technical bases for you. Would say it’s best to do a pH soil test of your media and water if you are uncertain.

However could you please post your location on your icon so we all can better help you?

To do so, double click on your icon atop the page. The Account details. Scroll down and enter your approximate location and USDA Plant Hardiness Zone.

Cheers
DSD sends
 
Welcome Aboard Bonsai Nut!

Sounds like @Leo in N E Illinois is covering the technical bases for you. Would say it’s best to do a pH soil test of your media and water if you are uncertain.

However could you please post your location on your icon so we all can better help you?

To do so, double click on your icon atop the page. The Account details. Scroll down and enter your approximate location and USDA Plant Hardiness Zone.

Cheers
DSD sends
Done, thanks!
I've done a couple of pH test and noticed that the pH is gradually creeping up. We use bore water up here and with water marks and scales evident around the house, I'm pretty certain the water we have is hard. To rectify that, I've added elemental sulfur which I believe would only start to work when the temperature warms up.
 
Well done.

That’s correct. About 13C soil temperature before the microbes start to convert the sulfur to sulfuric acid which will bring down the pH..

Normally we look up pH and Hardness data on our local purveyors annually required local Water Quality report, then spot check at the tap. Ballarat likely gets water from this purveyor. ( If so, see pages 56/57 and p62)

Usually the water purveyors tend to keep the pH about 7.6-8.2 to keep the pipes intact, which is acceptable given acidic soil/media.

Cheers
DSD sends
 
Well done.

That’s correct. About 13C soil temperature before the microbes start to convert the sulfur to sulfuric acid which will bring down the pH..

Normally we look up pH and Hardness data on our local purveyors annually required local Water Quality report, then spot check at the tap. Ballarat likely gets water from this purveyor. ( If so, see pages 56/57 and p62)

Usually the water purveyors tend to keep the pH about 7.6-8.2 to keep the pipes intact, which is acceptable given acidic soil/media.

Cheers
DSD sends
Thanks for your insights, and appreciate your guidance in getting my profile sorted =)
 
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