Are BRTs toxic to animals? Also my new BRT lol.

[MattE]

Hey all I just bought a BRT.
I have a cat and a dog and was wondering if anyone knows if they are toxic. As I am finding conflicting information online. And if so how toxic?

It needs alot of work but I'm ok with that.
Roots are growing out of the bottom of the pot and the pot stinks I may slip pot it I'm worried there is some rot on the bottom...hopefully just cause he left it in a humidity tray that has some algae in it lol.

 

[Michigan Tree Murderer]

I remember looking it up when I got one, and if I remember correctly it is poisonous to dog's. (sorry we don't own a cat) I treat all plants as toxic especially if the internet search is sketchy. Better safe than sorry. Nice tree!

 

[Paradox]

I have no idea if they are or arent but Ill take Michigan's word for it if he/she researched it.
Its a good practice to treat everything as if it were toxic.
With BRT, whenever I prune, I always collect the cuttings in a bucket and throw them in the trash.
This is mainly because of the up to two inch spikes/spines they have which would hurt going into someone's foot (dog or human).

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

I used to rant about those overwrought neurotics who fret about "toxic" plants. BRT is a legume, some, but not all, legumes have toxic phytochemistry. But remember, beans, peas, lentils, (pulses), tamarind, guar gum, and other legumes ARE edible and routine components of human diet. I believe that the BRT chemistry is not particularly. Harmful. It might not be edible, but I doubt its effects would be worse than nausea.

When it comes to Bonsai, and toxicity, train your pets to leave your trees alone. When I get a new puppy, I use bitter apple spray on furniture legs, and the edge of my shelves where I keep the bonsai. This helps prevent the dog from chewing. I also invest heavily in rawhide chew toys so my dog has "approved" items to chew on. Because ALL dogs want to chew. Train your pets to leave your plants alone. Also put your plants on shelves tall enough that the pet has trouble reaching them. Help your dog be a "good dog" by putting your trees out of reach.

I like plants, therefore I do not have cats. Cats and plants generally can not coexist. Some people know how to train cats, I really don't, so I never tried to bring a cat into my house.

 

[Pixar]

I need a few BRT around my property to keep the stray cats & dogs out

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

There are big differences between edible, not edible, hazardous, noxious, toxic, and poisonous, however context is everything. Some people will call anything that is "not edible" "poisonous", which is not at all true. But to make reasonable statement about toxicity one should list the LD50. The LD50 is the amount consumed (by a group of lab rats) that kills 50% of the rats. Usually listed as mg/kg body weight.

In the legume section the BRT belongs to, the most common secondary phytochemistry is various alkaloids of the DMT type. But it is a mixture, some related alkaloids are fairly toxic, I'm not recommending taking a "trip", as there could be some serious side effects, brain damage, heart damage, and the usual nausea and convulsive vomiting. DMT is destroyed by stomach digestive juices, smoking or ground bark as a snuff would be the ingestion route for related entheogens like Yopo, Vilca, and other DMT containing legumes. Don't try BRT, not likely to be a good time.

 

[Michigan Tree Murderer]

I used to rant about those overwrought neurotics who fret about "toxic" plants. BRT is a legume, some, but not all, legumes have toxic phytochemistry. But remember, beans, peas, lentils, (pulses), tamarind, guar gum, and other legumes ARE edible and routine components of human diet. I believe that the BRT chemistry is not particularly. Harmful. It might not be edible, but I doubt its effects would be worse than nausea.

When it comes to Bonsai, and toxicity, train your pets to leave your trees alone. When I get a new puppy, I use bitter apple spray on furniture legs, and the edge of my shelves where I keep the bonsai. This helps prevent the dog from chewing. I also invest heavily in rawhide chew toys so my dog has "approved" items to chew on. Because ALL dogs want to chew. Train your pets to leave your plants alone. Also put your plants on shelves tall enough that the pet has trouble reaching them. Help your dog be a "good dog" by putting your trees out of reach.

I like plants, therefore I do not have cats. Cats and plants generally can not coexist. Some people know how to train cats, I really don't, so I never tried to bring a cat into my house.

My dogs are only jealous of my plants because I'm paying attention to the tree, not them. Other than that they could care less about them. Puppies are a different story and that's good advice, Train your dog.

 

[MattE]

I used to rant about those overwrought neurotics who fret about "toxic" plants. BRT is a legume, some, but not all, legumes have toxic phytochemistry. But remember, beans, peas, lentils, (pulses), tamarind, guar gum, and other legumes ARE edible and routine components of human diet. I believe that the BRT chemistry is not particularly. Harmful. It might not be edible, but I doubt its effects would be worse than nausea.

When it comes to Bonsai, and toxicity, train your pets to leave your trees alone. When I get a new puppy, I use bitter apple spray on furniture legs, and the edge of my shelves where I keep the bonsai. This helps prevent the dog from chewing. I also invest heavily in rawhide chew toys so my dog has "approved" items to chew on. Because ALL dogs want to chew. Train your pets to leave your plants alone. Also put your plants on shelves tall enough that the pet has trouble reaching them. Help your dog be a "good dog" by putting your trees out of reach.

I like plants, therefore I do not have cats. Cats and plants generally can not coexist. Some people know how to train cats, I really don't, so I never tried to bring a cat into my house.

Appreciate the insight, i treat all plants as toxic just thought this would be the best place to ask since Dr. Google didnt have any answers other than it was listed as pet friendly on one bonsai site and than pet toxic on another lmao.
Just checking is all its good to know the range of toxicity of something for pets and people. for the most part my animals stay away completely from my bonsais and i usually keep them up its more of the leaves dropping ect.
Again appreciate your insight and knowledge and ill let you know how my trip goes ..jk

 

[MattE]

My dogs are only jealous of my plants because I'm paying attention to the tree, not them. Other than that they could care less about them. Puppies are a different story and that's good advice, Train your dog.

yep my pup just turned one yesterday and loves to eat and try anything lol. i do however keep my plants away but its good to know level of toxicity of things thats all..i try to research as much as possible

 

[penumbra]

I like plants, therefore I do not have cats. Cats and plants generally can not coexist. Some people know how to train cats, I really don't, so I never tried to bring a cat into my house.

I have read this but it is not my experience. I have several hundred plants in my house and probably close to a thousand container plants outside. I have 2 cats but had 11 rescue cats at one time. The only plant any of my cats ever bothered was a ponytail palm and they got bored with that quickly enough to leave it alone. hey do catch mice and voles near daily. I did have a dog once that loved to bite young container trees off , and uncannily always below the graft on those that were grafted. Also in my experience I have had dogs dig up, shit and piss on plants. This may not be common, or perhaps it is. I don't know. This is not meant as defense of cats or of condemnation of dogs, its just that I find most people don't know what they are talking about with pets. My only real problems are with wild animals, mostly squirrels.

 

[MattE]

I have read this but it is not my experience. I have several hundred plants in my house and probably close to a thousand container plants outside. I have 2 cats but had 11 rescue cats at one time. The only plant any of my cats ever bothered was a ponytail palm and they got bored with that quickly enough to leave it alone. hey do catch mice and voles near daily. I did have a dog once that loved to bite young container trees off , and uncannily always below the graft on those that were grafted. Also in my experience I have had dogs dig up, shit and piss on plants. This may not be common, or perhaps it is. I don't know. This is not meant as defense of cats or of condemnation of dogs, its just that I find most people don't know what they are talking about with pets. My only real problems are with wild animals, mostly squirrels.

I agree with you my cat gets bored of stuff pretty quick lol .

My dog how ever seems to fixate on things he isn't allowed

 

[Colorado]

I’ve found cats and dogs to be about equally and universally destructive in their own special ways.

 

[Pixar]

My dog how ever seems to fixate on things he isn't allowed

You could always trade him in on another BRT

 

[Paradox]

You could always trade him in on another BRT

If you know anything about dogs, they become very bonded to their family and being taken away from that family is very often traumatic for the dog.

 

[MattE]

You could always trade him in on another BRT

If you know anything about dogs, they become very bonded to their family and being taken away from that family is very often traumatic for the dog.

Me and Pixar are friends i know it was a joke.
But yes I wouldn't trade my animals for anything lol they are my fur babies

 

[Cmd5235]

I have a dog (German shepherd) and two cats. I’ve never had an issue with my indoor trees. The dog knows not to go after them, and I’ve protected the trees by using cheap clear plastic paper holders that are usually used to display signs for offices and conferences. They were a few bucks each, have a wide base, are clear and not as terrible looking as other material, but most importantly deter the cats from trying to jump up.

 

[MattE]

That's an excellent idea