Acer Dissectum in Brazil - a progression.

[Clicio]

I got this Dissectum sapling almost dead last winter. As it is somehow difficult to find them around, I've decided to invest in some LTC and now it is going well.
Picture from Feb 2023, mid-summer here.
I will try to make a progression out of it.








Suggestions are welcome.

 

[Ininaatigoons]

First suggestion on a tree this young is always going to be. Bigger pot to grow on.

 

[Clicio]

First suggestion on a tree this young is always going to be. Bigger pot to grow on.

Ah, yes.
Up-potting.
Will be done by the end of the Winter.
Now I am happy it is alive, as the sapling got here half dead last year.
One step at a time.
Thanks!

 

[dbonsaiw]

Exciting. Love the dissectum and got myself a Seryu and will layer in the spring. Still not sure how you are growing maples in Brazil. I know I cannot grow brazilian raintrees here in NY. Looking forward to the progression.

 

[Clicio]

Still not sure how you are growing maples in Brazil. I know I cannot grow brazilian raintrees here in NY.

I guess the main secret is to protect them maples from hot winds, water twice a day, and mist whenever one can. But the success only came after we provided a 50% shade cloth for the maples most part of the year.
In regard to BRTs, @leatherback grows them in northern Germany, which can be much more difficult than NY. Again, the tip is to protect them from the cold, from the cool winter winds and take advantage of your hot summers. They like water, plenty of water, and full sun all day is NOT necessary at all.
Good luck, try them, BRTs are fun.

 

[Maiden69]

I guess the main secret is to protect them maples from hot winds, water twice a day, and mist whenever one can. But the success only came after we provided a 50% shade cloth for the maples most part of the year.
In regard to BRTs, @leatherback grows them in northern Germany, which can be much more difficult than NY. Again, the tip is to protect them from the cold, from the cool winter winds and take advantage of your hot summers. They like water, plenty of water, and full sun all day is NOT necessary at all.
Good luck, try them, BRTs are fun.

Thanks for that advise there... my maples suffer a little bit during the summer and I have them under my bigger in-ground trees. I'm going to try the 50% shade this year and see how they fare.

As far as BRT's in cold weather I would suggest bringing them in whenever the weather is going to be below 40F for an extended period of time. NY has some nasty areas that dip into zone 3... and the air quality outside from the rural areas suck, Germany is like paradise island compared to NYC... I've been in both.

 

[dbonsaiw]

As far as BRT's in cold weather I would suggest bringing them in whenever the weather is going to be below 40F for an extended period of time. NY has some nasty areas that dip into zone 3... and the air quality outside from the rural areas suck, Germany is like paradise island compared to NYC... I've been in both.

I recently acquired some Vachellia Caven seeds and have been taking up real estate in my son's grow tent. I do like BRTs and, now that I have some tropicals, plan on finding a BRT and keeping it in there for the winter. I promised myself to hold off on buying more sticks in the dirt and will keep on eye out for something a little more developed.

 

[Srt8madness]

Thanks for that advise there... my maples suffer a little bit during the summer and I have them under my bigger in-ground trees. I'm going to try the 50% shade this year and see how they fare.

As far as BRT's in cold weather I would suggest bringing them in whenever the weather is going to be below 40F for an extended period of time. NY has some nasty areas that dip into zone 3... and the air quality outside from the rural areas suck, Germany is like paradise island compared to NYC... I've been in both.

My experience is limited. But last year I grew about 6 maple seedlings in ground, and 10+ in pots. All but 1 in pots (nursery cans with dirt) died from scorch or something else. No matter how protected from sun.

The in-ground trees, which got sun from morning till past noon, stayed alive. This has led me to believe that root temperature is a HUGE factor in maple success in hotter climates. YMMV of course.

 

[Wattsy]

I live in the uk have a south facing garden sun all day and maples thrive here but they still suffer some scorching they seam to hate the wind too

 

[rodeolthr]

@Srt8madness @dbonsaiw Many, many maples detest high alkaline water. You may want to check the ph of your water and take appropriate measures to get it to a more neutral reading for watering your trees. This may help.

 

[Clicio]

Thanks for that advise there.. I'm going to try the 50% shade this year and see how they fare.

Well, if it helps, some pix of the maples - and prunus - kept under shade cloth this season. Remembering that it is high summer right now, and some are dormant.

Under the shade.


Kiyohime looks OK. No scorched leaves.


Palmatum with some scorched areas, but all in all they are doing well.


Tridents under full sun. Those will never complain, tough boys.


New Autumn leaves will gradually substitute the scorched ones on the Palmatums.

 

[Maiden69]

Thanks @Clicio, my tridents are also under full sun, they get some damage but very minimal. My kotohime and cork bark maple on the other hand... scorched. My gingko seedlings started leafing now and I can already see some edges scorched but we had some weird weather with days in the low 30s to high 20's followed by days on the 80's with full blasting sun. Those will go under the shade as well. I placed the order yesterday, should be home before Sunday. Will probably put up the frame sometime tomorrow.

 

[Clicio]

Thanks @Clicio, my tridents are also under full sun, they get some damage but very minimal. My kotohime and cork bark maple on the other hand... scorched. My gingko seedlings started leafing now and I can already see some edges scorched but we had some weird weather with days in the low 30s to high 20's followed by days on the 80's with full blasting sun. Those will go under the shade as well. I placed the order yesterday, should be home before Sunday. Will probably put up the frame sometime tomorrow.

Yes, Kotohime are very sensitive to full summer sun, and yes, I keep the Gingkos under the shade too.
The Kotohime is in full shade, under the trees. Even underneath the cloth it was feeling uncomfortable.