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Adair M

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Not always the case. Sticking too close to the "rules" can lead to a boring display. I think your boxwood and maple would get lost if you put them into a 3-point. Sometimes the size discrepancy helps convey the sheer size of the larger tree. Here is Boon's under 18" Show, and it's not hung up on the same size rule, and these are some nice displays.
https://bonsaitonight.com/2011/02/01/three-point-displays/
Brian, what you said is true.

You can pair a large tree with a small tree as it's accent, but you wouldn't also include an accent plant to make it into a 3 point.
 

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... Here is Boon's under 18" Show, and it's not hung up on the same size rule, and these are some nice displays.
https://bonsaitonight.com/2011/02/01/three-point-displays/
Thanks for the link, Brian. The description of how to create a three-point display is a neat mini-tutorial. And the photographs are small by today's web standards, but well done. All in all, really nice displays. Those with trees of different sizes whether they have accents or not, all appeal to me.

Except for one that bothered me: One with a procumbens juniper and a cork bark elm. I want to reach in there and turn the juniper around! What am I missing that makes it look like it's moving away from the little elm?
 

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Not always the case. Sticking too close to the "rules" can lead to a boring display. I think your boxwood and maple would get lost if you put them into a 3-point. Sometimes the size discrepancy helps convey the sheer size of the larger tree. Here is Boon's under 18" Show, and it's not hung up on the same size rule, and these are some nice displays.
https://bonsaitonight.com/2011/02/01/three-point-displays/
Thanks for this link. Most of the three point displays that I have seen, were larger trees with smaller ones. I actually have not seen too many with two small trees. I just didn't know there was a rule about using same size trees together. These displays are really nice.
 

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Brian, what you said is true.

You can pair a large tree with a small tree as it's accent, but you wouldn't also include an accent plant to make it into a 3 point.
uhhh, but the link shows larger trees, with smaller trees, and an accent in Brians link? And it's called 3 point displays? And it Bay Island Bonsai?
 

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uhhh, but the link shows larger trees, with smaller trees, and an accent in Brians link? And it's called 3 point displays? And it Bay Island Bonsai?
Yes, but they are not real big trees with smaller trees.
 

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Look, rules are words people use to explain what others can do without speaking. They only get you so far, and at some point you either "get it" or internalize the rules so well, you "get away with it". The latter usually looks a bit forced.
 

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Yes, but they are not real big trees with smaller trees.
I get that, but they are also not "about the same size" I'm trying to have a learning moment here, so that to me is confusing the issue. I think that differing sizes are nice together. Although I think large size discrepancies may be too much.
 

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I get that, but they are also not "about the same size" I'm trying to have a learning moment here, so that to me is confusing the issue. I think that differing sizes are nice together. Although I think large size discrepancies may be too much.
I'm sorry to have confused you.

While the BIB trees are different sizes, they're between 8 and 18 inches.

Not 8 and 30 inches.

A three point display is for mid sized trees. Generally, they're larger than Shohin, but smaller than trees large enough to be shown on their own. The two trees are both "feature" trees, but since they're smaller, there's just not enough visual mass. The two trees plus an accent complete the three point "triangle". (Note: a scroll is sometimes used instead of an accent plant for the third "point".)

You can show a large tree with a smaller tree (Shohin) as the accent, but in this case, it assumes the role of "accent plant". The focus should remain on the primary tree. The accent tree is there to help show seasonality, movement, etc.

In a Shohin display, the trees in the display should be all about the same size. If one is significantly smaller than the others, it looks out of place.
 

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Judy I just saw this thread. I missed it :( In any case, the key is also about variety in any display. Variety in species, sizes and even color and heights of the stands, etc. Taking the hackberry and the deshojo maple as an example. These do not make an ideal three point display because size discrepancy is too much, to Adair's point. In addition, they both feature twin trunks and heights of the stands is too similar.
 

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Judy I just saw this thread. I missed it :( In any case, the key is also about variety in any display. Variety in species, sizes and even color and heights of the stands, etc. Taking the hackberry and the deshojo maple as an example. These do not make an ideal three point display because size discrepancy is too much, to Adair's point. In addition, they both feature twin trunks and heights of the stands is too similar.
Agreed. I've got on my wish list more stands with more height differentiation.
 

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Agreed. I've got on my wish list more stands with more height differentiation.
Good stands are hard to find. The best place is going to the larger shows where the vendors are.
 

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Agreed. I've got on my wish list more stands with more height differentiation.
Most stands offered here are fairly low. In Japan, they often use higher stands with longer legs. They look more like tables. They're hard to find.
 

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Judy, somehow I overlooked this thread too...
As if..."display pics aren't going anywhere".

Poo sorry!

Do you have photos of your final display?

Can we still talk about them?

The only thing that was off off for me was the tree accenting the tree which also had an accent.

Like they were scaling down, rather than one accent appropriately sized for the display of trees.

Which is all in this recent tree size conversation.

Trees banging. Pot combos banging. Accents banging.

Thoughts and care! Banging!

Excellent!

Sorce
 

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Do you have photos of your final display?

Can we still talk about them?
No I do not have pictures of the show, it's so tight there, the photos I took are better than what I could've taken...

And I think we are talking still...lol.
 
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