The "What The Heck Should I Do With It" Thread

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This works kind of like the Tree Thread, Yamadori Thread and others. However, you don't need to post a tree every time you respond. If you have a tree that you just can't seem to do anything with post it here to get some ideas or help with it. First up, my Seesaw Juniper. There are two branches 180 degrees apart that seem to dominate what can or can't be done it. I've had it three or four years and have already taken a foot or so off each side. Looking at again today, I remembered I was supposed to take that sucker off last year but never got around to it. I think I'm just going to bring it to the club auction this year unless someone has a better idea.

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Can we add something to this post every month or so? Then everyone will know it exists
 

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Can we add something to this post every month or so? Then everyone will know it exists
 

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I've got about 300 hours in starring at this.
Itoigawa that Kobayashi started.
It was selected and handed to a good friend and teacher of mine by Kunio himself over ten years ago! So until I am COMPLETELY confident that the end design is going to be the ultimate design. I will keep starring.
I know at least 75 % of this foliage will come off, lots of regrowth closer to the trunk,dead wood, reposition,petting, singing, praying.View attachment 156940View attachment 156941
I doesn't look like it has any future at all. There's no hope for it. How about I send you a few bucks to cover shipping and you can send it my way. Maybe after a few years of me staring at it a design may come to mind. :rolleyes: Dude, that is an awesome trunk filled with tons of possibilities! With the right pot, a little wiring and some jin and shari work you'll have a tree people will be drooling over.
 

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The first thing you need to do is nothing that you do not understand. Do you know if the base of the tree is one really gnarly trunk or is it a narrow trunk wrapped around and folded up to make this twisted mass at the base?
 

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Good morning everyone. This is a tree I got this spring. I can take a newer photo when I get home. But, what do I do with this Black Pine? No branches until all that way up the trunk. I am obviously going to get rid of those jins, but the nursery has wire on them that is holding the tree in its current shape. I will be removing the wire and cutting the jins soon. Let me know what you guys think. Is grafting my only option?
 

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Good morning everyone. This is a tree I got this spring. I can take a newer photo when I get home. But, what do I do with this Black Pine? No branches until all that way up the trunk. I am obviously going to get rid of those jins, but the nursery has wire on them that is holding the tree in its current shape. I will be removing the wire and cutting the jins soon. Let me know what you guys think. Is grafting my only option?

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I tried to copy paste from a post I had a pic of it on. This is the only one I have on my computer at the moment. What do I do?View attachment 156996
We really need to see the tree in way that shows a better profile from all sides. Most of the time people will show four images straight on turning the tree a quarter turn each frame (if that makes sense). If you look at the photo @petegreg used for example, this would represent an excellent first image. You would then turn the tree a quarter turn for the second image and so forth and so on.

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And here's one of a Dawn Redwood I'm working on (as an example):

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It does look realy healthy !
I dont have any experience with black pine but im with vin about the pictures!
 

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@Vin and @defra I will take a bunch of photos for you guys when I get home. This thread will get photobombed with them, but itll all be one post. Ill thumbnail them.

As for it's health, yeah it has really responded well. I got it from a local nursery and it looked really weak. Only those longest needles were on it. It was pushing pollen sacs too. A good sign for a healthy tree, not so much for what this guy looked like. It has back budded all across those 3 branches. I am hoping if I let the candles extend next year I can produce back budding along that trunk. I am not hopeful though. LOL. Hence my dilemma of what the heck to do with it.
 

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Wel at least it liked what ya did so far thats the most important thing !
 
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Wel at least it liked what ya did so far thats the most important thing !

I am really amazed at how sparse it was when I got it compared to how strong it seems to be now. I will try to post the photo from when I first got it along with the rest of the photos you guys requested this evening. I think you might be a bit surprised.
 

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@Vin and @defra I will take a bunch of photos for you guys when I get home. This thread will get photobombed with them, but itll all be one post. Ill thumbnail them.

As for it's health, yeah it has really responded well. I got it from a local nursery and it looked really weak. Only those longest needles were on it. It was pushing pollen sacs too. A good sign for a healthy tree, not so much for what this guy looked like. It has back budded all across those 3 branches. I am hoping if I let the candles extend next year I can produce back budding along that trunk. I am not hopeful though. LOL. Hence my dilemma of what the heck to do with it.
You can't photobomb a thread that is intended for just that. Once you figure out "what the heck to do with it" post another one. I created the thread but it's by no means mine. Post at your will and pleasure and anyone or everyone can jump in and offer advice. :)
 

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I tried to copy paste from a post I had a pic of it on. This is the only one I have on my computer at the moment. What do I do?
Next time (since you cannot edit the post now), go to the original pic, right click and select 'copy link address'. Then in the post you are writing, click the 'image' icon and paste the link address in the dialog. :cool:
 

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Lol. Thanks for that info. Much appreciated. Here are the photos. What the heck do i do with it? For reference to size id say the trunk is an inch to an inch and a half in diameter. I have a few ideas already but id rather not taint the water with them.
 
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I've got about 300 hours in starring at this.
Itoigawa that Kobayashi started.
It was selected and handed to a good friend and teacher of mine by Kunio himself over ten years ago! So until I am COMPLETELY confident that the end design is going to be the ultimate design. I will keep starring.
I know at least 75 % of this foliage will come off, lots of regrowth closer to the trunk,dead wood, reposition,petting, singing, praying.View attachment 156940View attachment 156941
Wire it, shorten the branches by bending them, pull them down, let more light into the interior to spur some back budding... no design is the final design until the tree is dead!
 
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Lol. Thanks for that info. Much appreciated. Here are the photos. What the heck do i do with it? For reference to size id say the trunk is an inch to an inch and a half in diameter. I have a few ideas already but id rather not taint the water with them.
Beebsy, I am not a pine guy. However, the third image (or somewhere close to it) would be my choice as a front to start working with. As @Eric Group stated, wire the branches. Put as much movement in them as you cam which will result in shorter branches.
 
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