markyscott
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Time for cut back:
Cleaning up the pruning cuts - we want a nice, sharp wound:
Scott
Cleaning up the pruning cuts - we want a nice, sharp wound:
Scott
Chuhin Broom Elm
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markyscott
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Everything was cut back except for the eventual leader:
Now - we'll let it grow and do it again.
Scott
Now - we'll let it grow and do it again.
Scott
dirk hoorelbeke
Omono
not sure how the eventual tree will look, but i do like it.
Brian Van Fleet
Pretty Fly for a Bonsai Guy
Looks good Scott. I did the same to a Zelkova I'm starting down this road too.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
barrosinc
Masterpiece
why did you wire the branch so much if you were going to cut it off later?
markyscott
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Scott, go back and take a look at Ebihara's tree, the 1980 picture. I just noticed that he pulled whips around, and made thread grafts from the outside in!
In the 1984 picture, where he did a big cutback, he has branches coming up out of the center of the trunk, not just from around the outside perimeter. Those must be the thread grafts.
Got some updates @markyscott , on this ones progress please?
This does inspire me to do a broom sometime soon. Not something I've ever done before.
This does inspire me to do a broom sometime soon. Not something I've ever done before.
markyscott
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Hi Conor. Thanks and I'll update it soon. I think they're great trees and I see very few around in shows.
S
markyscott
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Hi Maros. No grafting. When I chopped the trunk, tons of shoots grew from the exposed cambium at the cut site. It was just a matter of selection. I used no cut paste after the chop because I was worried that it might inhibit growth of the adventitious buds. Chinese elms easily bud at the cut site.
Scott
This is something I've wondered.. paste inhibiting growth. Getting growth from or around a wound is good for scaring and healing, but if the pastes inhibits it, it could lead to longer heal times.
Is there any info or from your experience, have you found that sealant definitely inhibits growth or does in some species but no others?
markyscott
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Hi Conor. To be clear, I have no data. This is just guesswork on my part and particular to trees like the Chinese elm. These trees will produce adventitious buds directly from cambial tissue at the cut site. I had about two dozen when I chopped the trunk. I have no idea if light exposure is part of what stimulates the bud growth, but if it is, I can imagine that smearing cut paste all over it wouldn't help.
Scott
Two questions: What's the timing for this kind of chop? And for what species is this technique viable to create brooms?
/MindTone
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
No pics of my time capsuled tree....
But I put paste on the cuts and didn't get any branches there....
A branch....and coincidentally, the new lead, popped from an unpasted squirrel bite spot.
Wouldn't it be crazy if, like they found poison in Komodo dragons saliva, they found chemicals in squirrel saliva that made branches grow? You know...,So they can chew a tree and help it....
How to make a million dollars in bonsai!
A squirrel farm!
Sorce
my nellie
Masterpiece
Thank you for posting your documented work @markyscott
That hollowing of the cut surface which you made on the zelkova..., I wonder if this technique can be applied to other species, too. A Japanese maple perhaps?
That hollowing of the cut surface which you made on the zelkova..., I wonder if this technique can be applied to other species, too. A Japanese maple perhaps?
my nellie
Masterpiece
@markyscott I have been thinking about this.... I believe it has to do with the each species characteristics, hasn't it?....
So, for the J. maple since new shoots emerge from its alternating dormant buds perhaps this technique is not feasible...?
So, for the J. maple since new shoots emerge from its alternating dormant buds perhaps this technique is not feasible...?
markyscott
Imperial Masterpiece
Hi Nellie - I'm sorry, nut I missed your question. I believe certain species are more amenable to using this technique for creating broom-style trees than others. There are only a few species I'm aware of that will bud back strongly from exposed cambium at the cut site. There are, of course, other methods for making broom style trees and there are a number of excellent Japanese maple brooms around to attest to there ability to be used in this style. But if don't believe that they'll bud back at the cut like a Japanese maple will.
