The Any Maple, Progressive~Progressive Bonsai Contest

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It's no secret that I am a people pleaser, so in an effort to allow anyone that wishes to work on a tree, this is the new parameters. Many of the original thoughts have been axed in an effort to simplify and curb so many questions. Lets fully understand that this above all else is a way to stimulate the posting of work towards a goal, the goal being to create a bonsai from less than perfect material.
The first goal is to allow as many people as possible to tag along in this quest. How best to do that? Get rid of the many roadblocks that people always try to include in other contests to make it fair. Much like our Government does, and you see how well thats currently working.

One rule still remains, the maple, any species of Acer must have a trunk diameter of 3 inches across one inch above the soil. Thats where you measure a trunk. Its not at the soil, does not include flare into the soil and does not include nebari or root spread on top of the soil. We measure at the waist of the tree. (cool, see you all learned something already, I told you I was a pleaser!). Those that tell their girfriend the circumference will measure 9.45 around the trunk. If you use the metric system, your on your own.

Thats it, now the good part. Most everything else has been removed.

Got a maple you had for ten years, use it.
Got a tree in the neighbors front yard, dig it out at night and use it.
Seen a tree on the freeway, forest, National Park, county park, school and you want to use it, go ahead.
Buy one from a nursey, cool, bonsai nursery, even better.

Remember: This is a progressive contest and the judge will be looking for what you start with and what you manage to do with a year to improve it. If you use a tree you have had for ten years and it does not change much, no matter how beautiful it is will merit less score than someone who manages to put a complete set of branches on a tree in a year, and look great in the process. Conversely, doing gobs of bad work is not the path to winning either. It has to look good, look like a bonsai, whatever that is in the eyes of the judge. Buying a great tree and trimming the ends and showing us no work all year will be a waste of $5000.00 with the exception you will have the honor of showing the forum your 5000.00 purchase.....you lucky devil!

So all the pre entry rules are removed, use any maple from anytime, starting in March and work the tree adding monthy updates of work that has been done. If you did no work, then post you did no work and show us the picture of you washing the windows for your wife...or husband or partner!

Whats the deal with Progressive ~Progressive?

Ending date will remain the same. The contest will end March 15, 2016 and finished photos will be submitted by March 25, 2016. Winner to be announced April 1, 2016. Nothing significant about that date. But wait..there's more. The contest will continue into the next year. Same ending date. But some of those people that have those damn short growing seasons and did not really get the growth on those branches they wanted will get a second chance the following year. Possibly same judge or a new one, I have several bonafied people I can go to on this trust me. progressive~progressive could go on for years till that damn tree is finally a bonsai even if it takes ten years!!!!! I'm willing to go the distance if you guys are. Start a thread for your tree and call it something creative, but put something in the title that denotes you have thrown your hat in the ring. I will collect pictures from the posts and put numbers to them and store them until next March and affix a number at the end of your thread with your final entry for the year with the same number. The numbered photos will be sent to the Judge, hiding out as we speak, and a winner chosen from the blind judging not knowing anything except a before and after one year apart.

Thats as inclusive as I can make it and as fair at the end as can be. Trunk size is a limiting factor for some but hey, this is a bonsai contest not a stick in a pot contest! I hope Walter enters, there are not many places on the net that you can watch what Walter Pall does to a maple over a year. That alone is worth the yearly salary of Justin Case.

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If those are real people, I'm going to go drink something, and intentionally shoot it it my nose!

Great contest!

Sorce
 

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Fantastic! It is settled then! I am stealing the most beautiful tree from my rental property and turning it into a badass Bonsai! Needed the push- thanks smoke!
 

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SOunds gewd....though I am pinning the blame on you when my neighbour scalps me for digging out their tree.......I could always say I was just borrowing it.....heheh
 

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If those are real people, I'm going to go drink something, and intentionally shoot it it my nose!

Great contest!

Sorce

Post a picture of you drinking something up your nose! Have you looked at Smokes blog?
 

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Can be fun. Thanks Al.
I suggest each thread created should include the words "Progressive Maple" so we can search and filter. (Really hate that word...)
Its settled, from now on it will be called the PP contest. Again such a people pleaser...
 

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Its settled, from now on it will be called the PP contest. Again such a people pleaser...
Lol isn't that Power Point? I'm so confused...lolz
 

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SOunds gewd....though I am pinning the blame on you when my neighbour scalps me for digging out their tree.......I could always say I was just borrowing it.....heheh
Take the tree and if they complain... Give them all the pieces you cut off and tell them you are just keeping that one little piece... It just happens to be the trunk and roots! What we use should be a very small piece of the whole tree after all...
 

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Take the tree and if they complain... Give them all the pieces you cut off and tell them you are just keeping that one little piece... It just happens to be the trunk and roots! What we use should be a very small piece of the whole tree after all...
You are a genius among men! Can't go wrong with that logic! I'm gonna try.......though I live in a space with a huge population and even at 3 or 4 am people are moving about....oh well a spade to dig up a tree, a spade to ward off local drunks! I think I am going with the "I am a foreigner and I think digging up your tree is helpful" kind of approach......hehe
 

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You are a genius among men! Can't go wrong with that logic! I'm gonna try.......though I live in a space with a huge population and even at 3 or 4 am people are moving about....oh well a spade to dig up a tree, a spade to ward off local drunks! I think I am going with the "I am a foreigner and I think digging up your tree is helpful" kind of approach......hehe
Yeah, try the old "where I come from digging up a neighbor's tree is a sign of respect" approach!
 
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Hmm, this sounds like a show off what ya got thing. I'm not seeing any challenge in it. So, let me get this straight- we spend a lot of money on a tree that someone else worked on for years or decades, we post in on here what we did in that 1/10th of a time period, and that's supposed to be a challenge?

Sounds like a bunch of experts pulling their shorts down to see who has the biggest nebari. Not very fun for a beginner like me.

Oh, and there are no bonsai stores around here. Just like 99% of bonsai enthusiasts on this forum. Less than 1% have a bonsai shop within 100 miles. Unless you consider Lowes and Walmart bonsai shops....

This is gonna be like 5 people particpating.
 

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I think it's a great contest for the more veteran/seasoned bonsai folk. (Nothing wrong with that) Some newbies may join in...and that's great. I am just planning on watching from the sidelines. Not saying maples aren't lovely...just I would rather spend my money if I'm buying some decent stock...on something more suitable to my taste.

But...I am planning on following along...and possibly learning from the stages each contestant takes their tree.

Is there no deadline to find your material...if you just find your tree later...your just cutting the time your working your tree? Just curious...will the photos be attached here or elsewhere as to ones wishing to follow along and seeing everyone's progression? Wishing all participating the best of luck!
The contest will end March 15, 2016
 

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Hmm I think I can participate here. I mean, it's kind of what we already do here...post progress pics hopefully to show the work we've done and where it's headed. But the contest aspect might push me to work a little harder.
 

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Hmm, this sounds like a show off what ya got thing. I'm not seeing any challenge in it. So, let me get this straight- we spend a lot of money on a tree that someone else worked on for years or decades, we post in on here what we did in that 1/10th of a time period, and that's supposed to be a challenge?

Sounds like a bunch of experts pulling their shorts down to see who has the biggest nebari. Not very fun for a beginner like me.

Oh, and there are no bonsai stores around here. Just like 99% of bonsai enthusiasts on this forum. Less than 1% have a bonsai shop within 100 miles. Unless you consider Lowes and Walmart bonsai shops....

This is gonna be like 5 people particpating.
Not sure I agree with this. Re-read the first post:

"Lets fully understand that this above all else is a way to stimulate the posting of work towards a goal, the goal being to create a bonsai from less than perfect material."

"Buying a great tree and trimming the ends and showing us no work all year will be a waste of $5000.00 with the exception you will have the honor of showing the forum your 5000.00 purchase.....you lucky devil!"
 

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I think I'll be in, I'm not a newbie but I'm not a master either. So it would be fun to post my maple as it's an ugly one but rather thick :eek:, I'll take pictures tonight and be the first to start a thread. My tree is a yamadori and not much to look at BUT it will be nice to get critiqued on everything I'm doing wrong or could do better.
 
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Hmm I think I can participate here. I mean, it's kind of what we already do here...post progress pics hopefully to show the work we've done and where it's headed. But the contest aspect might push me to work a little harder.
Exactly. How about a gentlemens bet that over half of the trees shown have been shown before? Nothing new. Nothing progressive about it. Just a year snapshot of a trees life. Whoppee!!!! Oh, but some folks will get there ego's stroked again, and that's fine. I'll chime in with a 'nice tree' comment. But is this really a challenge? What exactly is the challenge part?
 

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This contest is a good idea to get people to post more trees and progressions, which was his original purpose.

However, I sort of agree with appliance guy. The 'contest' seems like just a 'who can buy the nicest trunk and get the most ramification in a year' contest. Which there is nothing wrong with this, it's just that the contest "title" is a bit misleading.

I just think this could have been a great contest with better organization.
 

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Exactly. How about a gentlemens bet that over half of the trees shown have been shown before? Nothing new. Nothing progressive about it. Just a year snapshot of a trees life. Whoppee!!!! Oh, but some folks will get there ego's stroked again, and that's fine. I'll chime in with a 'nice tree' comment. But is this really a challenge? What exactly is the challenge part?

Some of the most-appreciated threads here are those that show development of material over the course of years.

I see no offense in encouraging this type of participation. Everyone wins; we see how trees develop (or don't) each year in different climates and under different growing conditions. Those who do it well can get a "nice tree"; literally and actually. Those who just read along can learn plenty from watching on the sidelines.

And if Walter (or anyone else) wants to be the checkbook champion, we get to see a nice tree...it may or not say anything about the owner's ability like a true progression thread does.

My dad has been a pro golfer, and usually he bombs one on the first tee and says something like, "alright boys, you're all playing for second!"
 
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I don't take offense...but if two trees both have significant ramification I think the better of the bones (being trunk) would win. But...I honestly don't mind. I am more interested in watching how each go about building that in their work. So it will be a great learning experience just watching along the side lines...serious seasoned bonsai folk will love to sink their teeth into this. And we can learn from their knowledge.
 
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