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Poink88
February 7th, 2014, 07:19 AM
I am looking for this Kikuwa bonsai jack. Does anyone know a local vendor for this?

http://www.kaizenbonsai.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=1606
http://www.kaizenbonsai.com/shop/images/wb1013_jack.jpg

I have a lead on a Japanese vendor but would prefer local if available.

Thank you. :)

Brian Van Fleet
February 7th, 2014, 07:59 AM
I have been looking for the same one, and sometimes Dallas Bonsai has it; sometimes California Bonsai Studios has one similar, if not the same.

I will (hesitantly) say this. A couple months ago I bought one from Stone Lantern's site. What I received was nothing close to the quality of what was pictured. In fairness, I received a full refund and they told me not to send back the jack. However, given the quality of the product, I have no intention to use it on a tree big enough to necessitate its use.

Poink88
February 7th, 2014, 08:05 AM
Thanks Brian.

I've seen the Stone Lantern jack and I tried to convince myself to buy it but can't (thankful now). I just cannot see the quality in it. That jack is no longer carried by SL anyway.

I am looking for this particular brand (Kikuwa) and if I can't find it here, I might get it via the Japanese vendor or Kaizen bonsai.

mcpesq817
February 7th, 2014, 08:07 AM
I have been looking for the same one, and sometimes Dallas Bonsai has it; sometimes California Bonsai Studios has one similar, if not the same.

I will (hesitantly) say this. A couple months ago I bought one from Stone Lantern's site. What I received was nothing close to the quality of what was pictured. In fairness, I received a full refund and they told me not to send back the jack. However, given the quality of the product, I have no intention to use it on a tree big enough to necessitate its use.

Same with me. Thankfully I bought it during one of the big sales coupled with the mark down. Don't buy that piece of crap.

fore
February 7th, 2014, 09:23 AM
I bought one from California B. in 2012. Surprised you guys can't find one here. I'm still wanting to get a couple of those awesome Masakuni branch benders.

Poink88
February 7th, 2014, 10:22 AM
I bought one from California B. in 2012. Surprised you guys can't find one here. I'm still wanting to get a couple of those awesome Masakuni branch benders.

Thanks, I sent an inquiry to California Bonsai Studio.

Brian Van Fleet
February 7th, 2014, 10:24 AM
Thanks, I sent an inquiry to California Bonsai Studio.
If he's going to order some...I'd buy one too.

Brian Van Fleet
February 7th, 2014, 10:33 AM
Same with me. Thankfully I bought it during one of the big sales coupled with the mark down. Don't buy that piece of crap.
Unfortunately, that has been the quality if the last three items I purchased there; a root hook, a draw knife carving tool, and now this. Good news, none was overpriced, bad news, I got what I paid for.

Poink88
February 7th, 2014, 10:34 AM
If he's going to order some...I'd buy one too.

Ok, will let them know...that hopefully makes it worthwhile for them.

Poink88
February 7th, 2014, 10:51 AM
Unfortunately, that has been the quality if the last three items I purchased there; a root hook, a draw knife carving tool, and now this. Good news, none was overpriced, bad news, I got what I paid for.

I got my mini draw knife (Flexcut) from them and it is good. I also got a good Japanese bonsai saw from them. Love it enough to plan on buying a backup actually.

I think they carry some gems as well.

Bonsai Nut
February 7th, 2014, 01:06 PM
Can't help you with the Kikuwa jack, but I have a Volkswagon bonsai jack in the back of my car...

http://www.bonsainut.com/images/kikua.jpg

fredtruck
February 7th, 2014, 01:13 PM
Nice shot! I love it.

amkhalid
February 7th, 2014, 03:03 PM
Unfortunately, that has been the quality if the last three items I purchased there; a root hook, a draw knife carving tool, and now this. Good news, none was overpriced, bad news, I got what I paid for.

I bought the bonsai aesthetics grafting knife as a filler to top up a gift certificate I had. Total garbage. Came totally dull, impossible to get properly sharp and doesn't hold an edge anyway.

bonsaibp
February 7th, 2014, 04:43 PM
FWIW this is what I use. I have a masakuni jack somewhere and this one has bent stuff as big or bigger then anything I bent with the masakuni. The one slight drawback is that it isn't as easily placed because it has a somewhat different profile, that being said I've nevr not been able to use it. The best part is that it's 30 something dollars not almost 200 or whatever the masakuni is now. I've used it on Junipers and Pine as big as the big end of a baseball bat. More then the jack I think the key to those bends is preparing the branch first with raffia, wire, tape or whatever one uses. If that isn't right the best jack in the world isn't going to help.

http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac20/bonsaibp/file_zps14d3cb0c.jpg

Poink88
February 7th, 2014, 07:35 PM
Can't help you with the Kikuwa jack, but I have a Volkswagon bonsai jack in the back of my car...

LOL...nice! I might ask to borrow that jack one day. Kidding aside, I've used my car jack to bend/move one boxwood trunk, I wouldn't have been able to make it budge otherwise.

Poink88
February 7th, 2014, 07:37 PM
FWIW this is what I use. I have a masakuni jack somewhere and this one has bent stuff as big or bigger then anything I bent with the masakuni. The one slight drawback is that it isn't as easily placed because it has a somewhat different profile, that being said I've nevr not been able to use it. The best part is that it's 30 something dollars not almost 200 or whatever the masakuni is now. I've used it on Junipers and Pine as big as the big end of a baseball bat. More then the jack I think the key to those bends is preparing the branch first with raffia, wire, tape or whatever one uses. If that isn't right the best jack in the world isn't going to help.
Bob,

I used similar but there are applications that it won't work as well due to "access" problems. :) Thanks for the great reminder about proper prep work. :)

mcpesq817
February 8th, 2014, 09:25 AM
Unfortunately, that has been the quality if the last three items I purchased there; a root hook, a draw knife carving tool, and now this. Good news, none was overpriced, bad news, I got what I paid for.

Yeah, the Stone Lantern tools aren't all that great. I did buy an extra large concave cutter a while back from them that has held up, but I've been less than impressed with other things from there. As you say though, you get what you pay for.

Jason_mazzy
February 8th, 2014, 09:51 AM
anyone have a good demo on how to use these jacks?

Poink88
February 8th, 2014, 12:38 PM
anyone have a good demo on how to use these jacks?

Check this...somewhat the same but they seem to use 2 in tandem.
http://bonsaitonight.com/2009/09/06/big-bend/

Another one by Peter Tea.
http://peterteabonsai.wordpress.com/2012/02/12/pushing-the-limit/

Beng
February 8th, 2014, 09:56 PM
I bought one today as I needed it during a workshop with Mauro Stemburger. Call Vicky at House of Bonsai in Lakewood California. 562-804-6888. Te medium size is 70, the large is 80 I think. The medium would work for most things that's what I bought for a large tree I was bending a 5 inch trunk on. I'm sure she can give you the sizes if you call. Worked perfectly its all steel.

GrimLore
February 9th, 2014, 12:59 PM
FWIW this is what I use.

http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac20/bonsaibp/file_zps14d3cb0c.jpg

I have three of those, under 30 dollars each when I bought them. They work out ok for me because if I need them the tree is strapped down to a pallet and I have 5 foot on each side to work with. They are VERY well made.

Grimmy

Poink88
February 10th, 2014, 07:09 AM
I bought one today as I needed it during a workshop with Mauro Stemburger. Call Vicky at House of Bonsai in Lakewood California. 562-804-6888. Te medium size is 70, the large is 80 I think. The medium would work for most things that's what I bought for a large tree I was bending a 5 inch trunk on. I'm sure she can give you the sizes if you call. Worked perfectly its all steel.

Thanks, checked the website but none was listed. I will give them a call. .

Wow 5" trunk? :eek: I would love to see that. Please post before and after pics!!! :)

Beng
February 10th, 2014, 07:16 AM
Hard to see how big a bend it was in the picture since I changed the angle. We didnt style the foliage at all as I repotted this tree after the big bend and Shari work. Next year I will graft the whole tree with itoigawa or Kishu. With future plans to remove the variegated foliage all together.


On the back of the trunk we'd also carved a Shari. That Shari cracked a bit which is ok as it was between the 2 live wood veins. If we hasn't carved the channel for the Shari the whole trunk could have snapped. This was all done without rafia.

Poink88
February 13th, 2014, 12:58 PM
I bought one today as I needed it during a workshop with Mauro Stemburger. Call Vicky at House of Bonsai in Lakewood California. 562-804-6888. Te medium size is 70, the large is 80 I think. The medium would work for most things that's what I bought for a large tree I was bending a 5 inch trunk on. I'm sure she can give you the sizes if you call. Worked perfectly its all steel.

Ben,

I emailed them but got no response. Called but no one is answering the phone either. :( Before I pursue this more can you please post a picture of your jack if possible?

Thank you. :)

Beng
February 13th, 2014, 05:49 PM
Sure i'll snap one tonight when i'm home from work in a couple hours. Did you call 5628046888?

Poink88
February 13th, 2014, 06:26 PM
Did you call 5628046888?

Yep. No one picked up.

Beng
February 13th, 2014, 09:16 PM
Here's a pic

It's the smaller of the two she has.

Poink88
February 13th, 2014, 09:29 PM
Thanks!

Looks very solid and nicely done. My only concern is that this doesn't have the "expansion" option.

Beng
February 13th, 2014, 09:51 PM
Yep I see that now that I see its pic next to yours. Definitely solid and well built though this one ships last a lifetime.

Poink88
February 13th, 2014, 10:03 PM
I asked a coworker (who welds) today if she can build me one. She is looking into it if she can take it on.